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#615493 - 09/01/15 7:34 pm My 1983 Triumph TSX  
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Due to recent events I wanted to re-introduce myself and my bike to the forums.

My name is Chase I am 26 years old have just recently obtained my motorcycle license. I obtained my license because many years ago my grandfather gave me his 1983 Triumph TSX. My grandfather bought this bike brand new and after many moves and traveling across the country the bike found a home under a car port with a majority of the parts sitting in a tub in a station wagon.

A few years before my grandfather passed away he asked my mom to take the bike and put it away until she felt I should have it. Now that I have grown she felt it was a good time to give it to me.

It has been sitting inside out garage for almost 15 years and have been touched but once or twice. My step dad took it to a friend’s shortly after we picked it up and managed to get it to run but since then it’s just been sitting. (I threw a huge fit that someone other than me was touching my grandfather’s bike and I think my step dad appreciated that so didn’t touch it again)

Here are some pictures of the bike at my parents’ house and on my trailer ready to take the ride from Kansas to Illinois.







Here are some more pictures from when I got it home










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#615494 - 09/01/15 7:35 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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The first thing I did once I got it home was try and piece this puzzle together by putting what parts I could onto the bike and begin to make a parts list. Here is the aftermath.






And because I told my fiancée I wouldn’t be working on the bike for a while she thought it would be fun to catch me in my lie and post it on Facebook.





Since getting the bike I have created a large list of parts I know I need because I am missing them as well as a list of parts I need because they are obviously broken (still adding to this list).

Ill list these just in case anyone might have some laying around or might know of where I can get them for a great deal. As of right now I cannot afford to be spending any money on parts until likely after Christmas.


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1983 Triumph TSX
#615495 - 09/01/15 7:35 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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parts list
• 06-8058 Tail Light lens
• 14-0401 lock nut x2
• 30-3616 oil filter “O” ring
• 57-2330 Kick start Pedal rubber
• 57-2331 Pedal Rubber x2
• 60-4265 Air Filter x2
• 60-7172 Flasher lamp
• 60-7215 twinseat lock assy w/keys
• 60-7249 Mirror
• 60-7315 Indicator Grommet x4
• 60-7318 solenoid starter switch
• 60-7400 rubber (carb to head) x2
• 60-7527 connector pipe (carb to air box) x2
• 60-7626 Master Cylinder (rear)
• 60-7657 petrol cap (w/lock and key)
• 60-7658 nut cap
• 82-4228 spring
• 82-9063 distance tube
• 82-9353 retaining strap
• 83-4776 badge cenntre
• 83-4931 steady rubber x2
• 83-4932 mounting rubber x2
• 83-4934 rubber centre mounting
• 83-5448 air intake – left
• 83-5449 air intake – right
• 83-7256 footrest rubber LH
• 83-7259 footrest rubber RH
• 83-8052 brake rod end x2
• 83-8244 cover – left
• 83-8246 cover – right
• 83-8259 brake rod
• 83-8278 chain guard
• 97-5061 badge grommet
• 99-9980 headlight and frame grommet

Along with all the parts listed above I need an assortment of nuts and bolts. I made a list of all the bolts, nuts, washers, and bearings/bushings on the bike using my parts book and figured I might order a few of all of them because the one I have are either chewed up or aren’t worth the cost to have chromed later down the road.

I also need a battery and maybe a original toolkit if I can find one.
From the research I have done the MotoBatt MBTX14AU is the battery I’ll be getting because it is a sealed system and is the replacement to the original battery. I know this battery is pretty high priced at about $100 but I feel if I do all this work just to have a cheap battery leak all over it I’ll be kicking myself later down the road. Once the bike is up and running I also plan on getting a decent maintainer for those times I’m not riding.

Currently I have found all the parts at LP Williams, The Bonniville Shop, Big D Cycle, Andy Gregory, Klempf’s Garage, and Baxter Cycle Parts. Before I buy ill also send my parts list to the few places who do not have an online inventory such as Reg Allen’s, BritishSpares (they don’t list prices), and a few other places I can’t remember off the top of my head

Currently my plan is to
1. Buy the parts I know I need in one lump purchase to save some on shipping since I have so many parts I know I’ll need
2. Once I have the parts ill work on getting the bike running and figuring out what else I’ll need
3. After I have all the parts I need I plan on getting it repainted, chromed, and having the engine and trans looked at by a professional
I may end up changing plans and trying to get it running first to ee if I need any other electrical/mechanical parts I am unaware of first.

I also have to get one of the tabs on the forks for the side lights welded back on and have the foot stand welded back together as well. I have heard the tabs on the forks have a tendency of breaking because they just weren’t strong enough so I might have a shop replace both tabs and have them beefed up a little before it get chromed.

I know all of this will take time and a lot of money and I should have been saving a long time ago but well family first and right now my savings have been a little depleted.

Sorry for such a long introduction I’ll try to keep updating this thread as much and as soon as possible


Last edited by crazyeyeschase; 09/01/15 7:36 pm.

2009 Honda Shadow Spirit 750

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1983 Triumph TSX
#615500 - 09/01/15 8:01 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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Welcome on board, you have an interesting and quite rare Triumph,.
My plan would be , steady , read all you can about late triumphs 71 onwards, the OIF in Frame, which your bike is built on was std for years, the motor , has an electric start which sets it apart from most all of its ancestors.
You will probably find that not one supplier has all you need, some folks specialise and the market is better for it.
youre info so far looks good.
Post it over.

Post on the triumph board for more details and views,

Do you have a dog on a string and play the penny whistle?

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#615503 - 09/01/15 8:24 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: gavin eisler]  
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Originally Posted By gavin eisler
Welcome on board, you have an interesting and quite rare Triumph,.
My plan would be , steady , read all you can about late triumphs 71 onwards, the OIF in Frame, which your bike is built on was std for years, the motor is special, has 8 valve heads and other duff like maybe an electric start which sets it apart from most all of its ancestors.
You will probably find that not one supplier has all you need, some folks specialise and the market is better for it.
youre info so far looks good.
Post it over.

Post on the triumph board for more details and views,

Do you have a dog on a string and play the penny whistle?


Thanks, I do have a lot of studying to do still. I have printing out the parts book and placed it in a 3 ring binder for easy access while working on the bike, i also have the Haynes workshop book, and owners handbook that i have been using for references.


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#615506 - 09/01/15 8:48 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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One thing you will find unique to your bike is that it has Bing carburetors fitted from the factory as compared to Amals most every other Triumph prior to around 1980 came with.

Regrettably, there isn't the wealth of knowledge on the Bings as there is on the Amals. Here is a good source for Bing carburetor info though:

http://bingcarburetor.com/services.html

fried okra

#615522 - 09/01/15 10:11 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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Welcome to the forum, chase!

First things first: use the Haynes manual for wiping your butt, that's about all its good for. One of the site sponsors here, Kim The CD MAN has all the manuals, bulletins, etc on one CD. Well worth the money.

As already stated, post on the Triumph forum too. Ask lots of questions, take pictures of things BEFORE you take it apart. Ask questions before you take things apart, ask questions when you put things back together, ask questions....well, you get the idea!

Your grandfather sounds like a wise and generous man. He left you the bike, but didn't allow you to access it until you'd matured a little! wink

Look forward to seeing the resurrection!

Cheers,

Steve


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#615533 - 09/01/15 11:01 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: JubeePrince]  
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Originally Posted By fried okra
One thing you will find unique to your bike is that it has Bing carburetors fitted from the factory as compared to Amals most every other Triumph prior to around 1980 came with.

Regrettably, there isn't the wealth of knowledge on the Bings as there is on the Amals. Here is a good source for Bing carburetor info though:

http://bingcarburetor.com/services.html

fried okra


Thanks so much for the link I am somewhat mechanically inclined but for some reason carbs are the life of me.Small parts springs uggh but ive been tinkering more and more keeping my weed-eater and mower running.

Originally Posted By JubeePrince
Welcome to the forum, chase!

First things first: use the Haynes manual for wiping your butt, that's about all its good for. One of the site sponsors here, Kim The CD MAN has all the manuals, bulletins, etc on one CD. Well worth the money.

As already stated, post on the Triumph forum too. Ask lots of questions, take pictures of things BEFORE you take it apart. Ask questions before you take things apart, ask questions when you put things back together, ask questions....well, you get the idea!

Your grandfather sounds like a wise and generous man. He left you the bike, but didn't allow you to access it until you'd matured a little! wink

Look forward to seeing the resurrection!

Cheers,

Steve


You are not the first to say that about the Haynes and in all honesty i have looked at it much because in all honesty the parts catalogue has been my go to book for the time being.

I started a post on the Triumph forums pretty much redirecting here because i hate being that guy that make two identical posts but im sure ill make more posts before to long.

The last 15 years has been really tough concerning the bike. There has been timed my mom and step dad have told me they are going to send the bike off to have engine work on they wanted to sell it or whatever and i had to argue with them about it to no end.

I had to just tell my mom and step dad that i really appreciated the gesture but if they really wanted to help then they could give me some money when i do get the bike but i would appreciate if they just forget about the bike all together.

I was lucky and needed to take the trailer to their place earlier this year right after my motorcycle classes and didn't ask her until about a week before hand if i can get the bike while i was there.

My grandfather took me on rides on this bike when i was young and the last time i have seen it running was potentially in first grade.

I have also decided once its done and i have the pin striping done ill also have them add an in memory of just not sure where at on the bike yet.


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#615534 - 09/01/15 11:18 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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You wanna sell that 8 valve head????????

Just kidding. I like mine better. Good luck with the build. These fellas will make an expert out of you in short order.

You're spot on bout one thing. That bike will be a cash eating bastard. I'd go slow, and steady. Hoard away each piece until you have enough to finish a "system". Then hoard away the finished system.

Like building the engine, and leaving it complete with assembly lube in a crate. Setting the carbs up, and another box. rebuild the wheels, and seal them away... When (finally) one day, you have everything... It will be a no holds barred build, and with a set budget, it won't hurt (as much). I set 50.00 a week, and save till I have the next part.Even when I have a pocket full of loot, I stick to 50.00 period. I'm almost at my cylinder kit.

#615557 - 09/02/15 6:10 am Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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A few things spring to mind. The bike looks fairly complete and has been run. Does it really require a full ground up restoration? Anyway....

While many things will need to be ordered from specialists, there are also many that can be found elsewhere without the price premium you will pay from dealers. For example, bearings direct from the suppliers, grade 5 automotive fasteners (by 83 I think zinc plated UNF/C were used) for most frame and cycle parts can be matched and purchased from fasteners specialists. Plain rubber grommets and O rings are available from most hardware stores etc.

Elsewhere in this section I have posted a fairly simple paint and panel guide that could help you get that tank all black and shiny again.

Lots of advise can be gleaned on getting the electrics sorted and connected back up.

Well, you get my drift

Regards
Rod

#615558 - 09/02/15 6:47 am Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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I would tidy it up and run it, the main issues will be with rubber parts as they harden/crack with age so new tyres, brake hoses etc along with the other list of parts you need. Do a full lube on all the cables etc, flush the frame out and fit a Charlie's filter. Run it for a couple of years and then once you know what works and what doesn't plus you understand the beast a bit more then strip and do a full restoration. As long as you run an oily rag every few months over all the chrome and wheels they will not get any worse.

#615559 - 09/02/15 7:15 am Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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I would really love to do a full restoration because right now I know people locally who will help. Paint shop who will spray it for the cost of paint, and a biker who has built and dismantled many bikes in his day.

This is my first bike however and I would like to gain my skill level before taking this beast on the road.

Last night I fell in love with Zombies idea about working on it slowly and rebuilding/restoring parts one at a time setting them aside until the entire thing it’s ready for reassembly.

I think this is what I will do because those parts that need painted can easily be done and wrapped for later, the wheels need restored and that’s something I can do.

The engine well although I would love to do it myself ide rather send it somewhere and have the security a professional did it (I’ll be making sure it’s a reputable older brit bike shop). I can easily build a crate and take it just about anywhere. This will give me the best chance to learn about the bike and actually make it into something great.

While doing this I can continue to build to my parts list and when I’m ready I’ll buy everything I need.

I will likely buy the rear master cylinder ASAP being as it’s a tad difficult to find.

After September my shop area should be cleaned up a little more and I should be able to do this sort of thing.

I do feel ill get the most satisfaction out of doing things like this.


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#615570 - 09/02/15 8:52 am Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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I took 5 years to do my Victor Special, partly due to funds but also due to starting with a frame and crankcases and not much else. That was done one area at a time with the final assembly not taking that long as everything was prepared and test fitted in advance. If the mileage is right on the speedo then the engine will only need the seals renewing, checking over for any rust damaged bearings and shafts plus cosmetics on the covers and outer fasteners. Having seen posts on here about some of the 'Professional' engine rebuilds going wrong I would be doing that myself.

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I would be very wary of the biker who has built and rebuilt many bikes unless they are OIF triumphs

Ditto engine rebuilders. They only made a few of those bikes and knowledge is scarce. It will,not need rebuilding, just as Kommando says, maybe the seals changing .

I agree about at leat getting it all together and bolted up before anything like paint.
Custom builders do a complete bare metal build in case brackets are needed etc

#615619 - 09/02/15 4:22 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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I understand yall saying do a dry run before paint however the bike has already been started in its current condition so I see no reason to try and restart it until it’s complete.

Mt step dad had it running for a short period of time but it’s sat since then. Getting into the engine should give me a better idea as to what needs replaced obviously but if yall think it would only need seals I’m sure I can handle that no problem.

As far as paint goes I talked to my co-worker who restores old cars as a hobby and has a full shop with paint booth he said it will likely cost about $50 just for simple black and a base coat he has the rest on hand.

Really I would have him do all the black and then have the mud flaps, tank, and sides sent to get the decals painted on and then cleared.


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#615629 - 09/02/15 6:37 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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Since it has sat for sooooo long I would still pull the head/cylinders to inspect in there. At the least there will be surface rust in the bores, and stuck rings. At the worst, one cylinder could be full of water, and goldfish, beavers, lillypads.

There is nothing in there that is scary Crazyeye. If the cylinders pull off in good shape then the bottom end should also be fine.

The primary side (clutch) is simple. Pull it apart, inspect, put it back together.

I agree w/ these fellas that YOU/this forum, are the best chance the engine has.

I also agree that a mock up is mandatory. If a REAL restoration is your goal, then there is nothing stopping you from getting the bike sorted with whatever you have, fire it up, and then strip it down, and restore it.
This will save you a pocket full of loot so you will have cash for gas, and maybe even enough to take the girl out to dinner.

Remember... Loads of people call bikes "She or Her". the women you live with will ALWAYS get jealous if you use those words around them. Save some dollars to take the real "HER out, and mock it up first.

2 cents... sorry!

#615631 - 09/02/15 7:01 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: Zombie]  
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Originally Posted By Zombie
Since it has sat for sooooo long I would still pull the head/cylinders to inspect in there. At the least there will be surface rust in the bores, and stuck rings. At the worst, one cylinder could be full of water, and goldfish, beavers, lillypads.

There is nothing in there that is scary Crazyeye. If the cylinders pull off in good shape then the bottom end should also be fine.

The primary side (clutch) is simple. Pull it apart, inspect, put it back together.

I agree w/ these fellas that YOU/this forum, are the best chance the engine has.

I also agree that a mock up is mandatory. If a REAL restoration is your goal, then there is nothing stopping you from getting the bike sorted with whatever you have, fire it up, and then strip it down, and restore it.
This will save you a pocket full of loot so you will have cash for gas, and maybe even enough to take the girl out to dinner.

Remember... Loads of people call bikes "She or Her". the women you live with will ALWAYS get jealous if you use those words around them. Save some dollars to take the real "HER out, and mock it up first.

2 cents... sorry!


the woman already knows she is second heck if not third on the list haha. This is the current affair i have.



My only question is what more of a mock up do i need than this?



The parts in my list are mostly to replace current parts that are bad and a few that are missing. The only thing that bolts to the frame and isn't would be the master cylinder and chain guard. It has been started and ran i just don't feel comfortable starting it without inspecting the engine first.

I am not worried about doing the work to the engine myself I just don’t have a lot of experience doing tear downs and rebuilds and none on motorcycles.

I’ll take your/the forums word for the engine and will at the least attempt it myself once I am ready.

I do want to get working ASAP but I’m forcing myself to sit and wait until I have some more info and can get some things around the house sorted out first as well.


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#615701 - 09/03/15 9:01 am Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: Zombie]  
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Originally Posted By Zombie
You wanna sell that 8 valve head?


TSX is a standard 4-valve head.

...and the only thing non-typical in the engine is the e-start setup and Bing carbs; the rest is typical post-69 Triumph big twin, with a lot of it interchangeable all the way back to the early 60s unit engines.


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#615731 - 09/03/15 12:52 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase
I understand yall saying do a dry run before paint however the bike has already been started in its current condition so I see no reason to try and restart it until it’s complete.

Mt step dad had it running for a short period of time but it’s sat since then. Getting into the engine should give me a better idea as to what needs replaced obviously but if yall think it would only need seals I’m sure I can handle that no problem.




How long ago? What did it sound like ? Smoking? Did someone ride it down the road? Someone can get a better idea of what to do by seeing and hearing it run! May just need servicing, mechanical fixes such as brakes, wheels, forks, etc! Then start worrying about cosmetics. You are obviously on a budget, thus the Go Fund Me thing. If you get it running, you will have a general idea of things. I know so many projects that get started by an enthusiastic person. Then funds, time and enthusiasm are in short supply, and the boxes are sold as a project. Don't be one of those guys! You can always tear it apart later and do the $15,000 restoration!

For example, here is alink to Wade Shield's post about a neglected BSA that he is reviving. Won't speak for him, but it apperas he is trying to get it running first so he will know what direction he wants to go with it. He has lots of bikes and is knowledgeable.

wades 441

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+ 1 for getting it running, then tackle the worst bits first. New tyres, fluids ,battery and brake parts, then ride and learn, this will be a fun bike to ride.
Ive no experience with Bing carbs, but BMW used them for years so parts should be out there.

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#615879 - 09/04/15 11:02 am Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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Personally, when possible, I like to get them running first (as has been stated, to see how it runs, what sounds it makes, etc). But, you don't have to hold your breath long till someone crucifies you (with their keyboard) for running a bike that sat instead of tearing it down to the crank first, just in case it has some trash in the bottom end that might destroy the engine.

My solution is the FIRST inspect the sump plug (another move that some people do flips over, as they believe the sump plug should NEVER be touched). If there are fine bits of metal in the sump, don't run the engine till you flush it from top to bottom to ensure no bigger chunks show up. If there are big chunks (the size of a small tooth on a key, or bigger) DO NOT run the engine till you split it open and overhaul it.

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#615888 - 09/04/15 11:57 am Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: GrandPaul]  
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Originally Posted By GrandPaul
Personally, when possible, I like to get them running first (as has been stated, to see how it runs, what sounds it makes, etc). But, you don't have to hold your breath long till someone crucifies you (with their keyboard) for running a bike that sat instead of tearing it down to the crank first, just in case it has some trash in the bottom end that might destroy the engine.



Well, over the years, I've learned not to be scared of that "being crucified with the keyboard" thing.

Remember in the movie "Aladdin" when the little monkey is being chased by the company of palace guards, and suddenly the monkey turns around and draws a sword and flourishes it at the soldiers? One soldier quails back and says "Look out, he's got a sword!". Everyone hesitates for a second, then the captain of the guard draws his sword and shouts "YOU IDIOT! WE'VE ALL GOT SWORDS!"

Well, here on BritBike we've ALL got keyboards. As long as we don't start breaking the good china and knocking over Grandma's antique breakfront, it's an equal fight, if fight there must be.

Me personal, if I get one piece of advice that says "Fire it up and see how it does" and another that says "Don't dare start it until you've stripped it to the crank and cleaned the sludge trap", I evaluate both of them and decide which philosophy I'd rather follow; both might be equally valid depending on the risks I'm willing to take versus the benefits I might get .....

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Lannis, great post.

For me being pretty new to motorcycles i really feel stripping down will give me a munch better idea as to what im getting into.

Also you mention the sump plug GrandPaul however i have no idea where this plug is located without looking at one of my books. I think i would better learn about the engine how it works, and where things are by taking it apart and having it on the bench.

Time will tell what i end up doing butthe way ilook at it we can all tale then apart in differant ways but as long as she fires abs runs when she is back together then what's the difference.


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#615952 - 09/04/15 5:23 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: Les P]  
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Originally Posted By Les P
Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase


For me being pretty new to motorcycles i really feel stripping down will give me a much better idea as to what im getting into.


Maybe it has already been mentioned but don't forget you need to factor in tools to suit the bike if you are going to go inside the engine, remember the partial downfall of the British motorcycle was due to the home mechanic so reading the workshop manual is paramount along with using tools to suit it.

Because it has a family history I guess you know why it was parked in the first place.



It was parked because my grandfather moved it and then became ill and couldn't find the physical strength in himself to rebuild it.

I will be getting a handbook and doing more research inside the engine side of it soon. Ill also purchase or use Trats.net loan a tool program to loan tools if necessary.


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#615976 - 09/04/15 8:37 pm Re: My 1983 Triumph TSX [Re: crazyeyeschase]  
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Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase
...you mention the sump plug GrandPaul however i have no idea where this plug is located without looking at one of my books.


It's a big hex-headed plug on the very bottom of the engine. DO NOT TOUCH IT until you have the correct SIX-POINT (not twelve point) socket or box-end spanner to remove it. When you DO remove it, do so carefully, making sure to hold the tool square to the head of the plug (it's at a slight angle), otherwise you will start mangling the hex head; once that starts, it's all downhill from there.

Originally Posted By crazyeyeschase

I think i would better learn about the engine how it works...


On that topic, I posted this a while back...

How a Triumph engine works


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