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Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60687
04/25/08 1:07 am
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What are the differences between these two? I have a chance to get one in my area for a decent price.Owner says it's a Combat. Are the differences in power from the 850 Commando's that noticeable? Also if you had to pick one would you take the Norton 750 or an oif Triumph 750?
George

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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60688
04/25/08 2:08 am
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The Combat has a shaved head so more compression and a 2S cam. That's all.A good runner. The early motors need some modifications to be good to run but nothing you would not expect with an old bike. There all good.


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60689
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I'll say this much, my Combat already feels much stronger than both my 79 Bonnie Specials, and it's not broken in yet.

Make sure it's had the "Superblend" main bearing conversion and the oil sump crankcaase modification done, or you'll need to be careful how you ride it so as not to blow the bottom end apart.


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60690
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without starting a feud, having had many triumphs and one 850 commando, as far as an all around bike that can cover alot of miles, i much prefer the commando. faster, less vibration than triumph, top end seems to last longer on norton. the five speed on triumph is nice to have though.fwiw.


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60691
04/26/08 2:44 pm
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The Combat motor likes ro rev, and they rev very freely. All the way to redline in any gear. If you ride 80 mph freeways it's just the ticket. Especially the Interstate with its big tank.

But the Combat motor is rather unhappy under 4000 rpm. Not a lot of low end torque. You find yourself in lower gears around town and that can be annoying. Norton marketed the Commando as a "High Speed" motorcycle, and a Combat 750 is just that.

The 850 has a much broader power band and gobs of low end torque. It's perfectly content plodding about at 45 mph in 4th gear while still offering great throttle response. They pull hard to 6000 rpm. IMO it's a better all-round ride than a Combat.

The standard 750 is a great compromise. Better at around town than a Combat and comparable performance to the 850.

Never rode a Triumph, so I can't comment on that.


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60692
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norbsa you forgot the 2MM bigger carbs. if you realy want to have more torque change the 2s cam for a standard one and the twin 32MM carbs a single mikuni carb. with the higher compression of the combat it WILL make bottom end torque than

windy


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60693
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Thanks to all for the replies.i guess the question I shou;d ask is if you were going to get a Commando,750 or 850?
i think I'll post that in the Norton forum.
George

Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60694
04/27/08 2:24 am
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Darn, ol' Windy stole my post. I was just going to say the same thing, a standard cam and one mik make a great motor.

But to start an argument, if I had to walk in the dealer's and buy one of the two bikes listed, I would expect the oif Triumph to be the better bike and more reliable. But if I knew that the Norton had the upgrades, then there would be no question. Guess that's why I have two Nortons and only one triumph.


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60695
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The original combat spec Commando was a grenade, they cost Nortons every penny of manufacturers margin in dealer rework, I recall "Cycle" put one on a dyno way back when and power actually decreased as engine speed increased between 4.5K and 5.5K RPM.
Anything with more than maybe 5K original miles will have been blown up and fixed.


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60696
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I will preface this by saying that Triumph is and will for whatever reason, be my first love. That being said, I own a 70 S model and drag-raced a Superblend Combat for the last 2 years. Either one of these will pull away from all the Triumphs I own. They have a unique sound, their own characteristics, handle very well and pull hard for what they are. IMHO

An OIF Triumph is a very good rider but if you can steal a Combat at a good $, buy it.

Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60697
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Norton vs Triumph these days depends who is on them, I rode 100 miles on backroads on Friday with a Mk3 850, the bloke on it is nobody's fool but coaxing him up to 60 MPH was an effort, my usual cruising speed is 65 to 70 MPH.
People lack confidence in old machinery, I built my engine from scratch after a heart breaking failure of the original and if the bloody thing will not run reliably at continuous modest high speeds either Edward Turner was, or I am, a dickhead.
Fairly sure that Turners reputation is safe with me, the TR6 ran 60/70 MPH all the way back except for a squirt up to 90 MPH, I do not make a habit of that but known good conrods and such instill confidence.
The Commando I was with was certainly under utilised but it was a big soft thing in any case, the 750s are a different kettle of fish and I would love a '70 Fastback or S, then again at my mature age a nice '68 Mercury would be a better Norton ?


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60700
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Blackgar, at hwat price would you consider a Combat to be a steal? The one I'm looking at is being ridden and runs well.

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Blackrag, at what price would you consider a Combat to be a steal? The one I'm looking at is being ridden and runs well.

Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60702
04/28/08 6:45 pm
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"BALLPARK" Combat average retail in today's market, U.S. -

Excellent condition could easily go over $10,000, higher than $15,000 depending on the verifiable internal work & included nifty bits

Very Good, Running - $7,500 - $10,000 (ditto specs)

Good, Running - $5,000 - $7,500

Rough, Running - $3,500 - $5,000

Nice Non-Running - $2,500 - $3,500

Rough basket case - $1,000 - $2,500


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Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60703
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Geohon, GP has a pretty good guide there. I would say if it's a "runner/rider" and fairly original, I would try to get it between $4-5K. If it's a museum piece, different story. I am the last person to ask since I buy High and sell Low, over restore everything, always emotionally buy and never ask permission.

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Sounds a lot like me,or right after I buy something and think I may have paid too much another one comes along that's just as good if not better for less money.

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The particular one I'm looking at has had quite a few upgrades or modifications done that take care of some of the problems associated with the Combat.I know some guys in a norton club they know the bike say it's a good one.Asking price $5000

Re: Norton 750 Commando Combat vs 750 Commando #60706
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Buy it.

There will be one for $4,750 about a week after you hand him the money.

or

You'll pass on it, and the next one will be listed for $6,500.

One or the other has to happen!


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