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spoke patterns #59943
03/09/08 12:21 am
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howdy.....i spotted some rims on eBay....the ad said they were 1x1 pattern....what pattern does bsa QD crinkle hub have.....what pattern does TLS front brake have?? how do you tell the difference?
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Re: spoke patterns #59944
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Spoke patterns are 1x, 2x, 3x,... It is the number of spokes that cross each other on one side. Presumably 1x1 means it has 1 cross on each side. The weakest pattern is 0x (no crossing or radial). I do not believe anyone except Hardley guys use that on the front with no front brake (no way to transmit the tangential rim force to the hub except radial compression of the rim). The closer the spoke pulls tangent to the hub the stronger it is. I think the QD hubs were 3x on both sides. The comical hub had 1x on the brake side (because of the diameter) and 3x on the far side.

Re: spoke patterns #59945
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I think the 1 x 1 he's refering to is the dimpling pattern, every other dimple is on the opposite side of the rim. 1 x 1 is the most common, and I believe crinkle hub BSAs were like that, but it's too dark in my storage place to go and look right now.
I have a sprung hub Triumph that has a 2 x 2 pattern (but is drilled differently from my early '60's Harley Sportster Aluminum rim that is also 2 x 2. On the Triumph, each pair of dimples is drilled for the spokes to go in opposite directions, on the Harley, each pair goes in the same direction) I also have a 21" rim with a 3 x 1 dimpling pattern. I think some of the early '60's BSAs with the half brake on the front were dimpled like that.


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Re: spoke patterns #59946
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Daylight finds the following: 4 BSA A65 crinkle hub rears, 1 x 1 dimple pattern. These are laced cross 2. (that means each spoke crosses two other spokes on the same side of the wheel.)
2 BSA A65 front half brake 3 x 1 dimple pattern. These are laced cross 2 on the brake side, and cross 4 on the small side.
2 BSA A65 front TLS brake 2 x 2 dimple pattern, with each pair going in the same direction. These are laced cross 1.


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many thanks!


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1972 BSA Thunderbolt
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1972 Norton commando

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