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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #573507
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That's the one. Fantastic! But that exact one is wider than the correct one.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #573508
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That's a photo I found online searching for "BSA 90-3061". I didn't think to take a picture of the clamps at Rabers, but one or two of them had the cad plated cable clamp and hardware too. Give them a call, hopefully they're the correct diameter for your headpipes and not too pricey. Some of the parts in those cabinets come pretty dear.

Eric


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: BikeVice] #573511
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Originally Posted By: BikeVice
That's a photo I found online searching for "BSA 90-3061". I didn't think to take a picture of the clamps at Rabers, but one or two of them had the cad plated cable clamp and hardware too. Give them a call, hopefully they're the correct diameter for your headpipes and not too pricey. Some of the parts in those cabinets come pretty dear.

Eric

That image is one I took of one of my own cable clamps that I sold on eBay. That clamp is a wider version of the actual correct one which is narrower and has a bit of a cup to it. The correct narrower one also is the style exhaust clamp that facilitates the 'T' style bolt so only one 'D' washer is required, and is typical to singles like the '68 Shooting Star. It's in the Shooting Star Spares manual.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #573555
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Thanks for the tip Eric! Looks like I'll be calling Rabers in the morning.ljm

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575374
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Looks to be a "C" model. Cyclones are not very common.

'64 Cyclone "C" model


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575381
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which one?





Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575842
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If I understand Gary's post it should be the second one. The narrow one. So far Raber's have not been able to come up with one. Is it for sale? I still have your phone number if it is. ljm

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575866
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I checked my photobucket to see if I had a good shot with that clamp. This is the best I got, blow it up it's definitely the clamp on right in pic above

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575880
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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575894
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That "stand-off" clamp on the exhaust pipe looks like a good solution to the
problem of melted tachometer cable covers.

1969-74 Triumph 500 Daytonas from 1969 to '74 have that same problem.

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Irish Swede] #575896
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Originally Posted By: Irish Swede
That "stand-off" clamp on the exhaust pipe looks like a good solution to the
problem of melted tachometer cable covers.

1969-74 Triumph 500 Daytonas from 1969 to '74 have that same problem.

But only if a piece of exhaust pipe wrap is put between the adel clamp and the cable.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575939
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Leon and Gary

Thanks for the pictures. They helped a lot. Talked to Fred today and he said the same thing.....no part numbers. The only one that fits is a c-15 exhaust clamp for a 250cc BSA. Rabers sent a picture of the clamp they have but it doesn't look like Freds. So things are looking up. Suppose to call Fred back in a couple of days to see if he has all the parts for it.ljm

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575943
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Leo,

I think the exhaust clamp is also in the '68 Shooting Star Spares manual.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #575982
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Its great to hear some action back on this thread! A year or so ago we would get a page or two per week and I got the feeling every Hornet had been restored by the lack of interest!!!
I had some west coast Zorst rear brackets made to match a factory one I had and it was the same price to cut 10 as it was to cut 1 so I have a few spare if any one needs a pair. 68-2826.
Sid

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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #577356
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I still have mine sitting on the waiting list Sid. So not all have been restored. Two "new" projects have pushed back the hornet. I want to completely strip the hornet and do everything myself. So I need to be dedicated to that one. A 66 Victor and a 70 Firebird Scrambler that hopefully require less work to make them run are first on the list now. I am still watching this thread intently though bigt


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #590934
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Wade, has that Hornet gotten higher on the 'to do' list yet?


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Nah Gary. Im in the throws of a kitchen rebuild that is taking all of my time . Spare and otherwise.... Once that project is out of the way then I hope the honey-do list is what gets pushed to the (far) back of the queue.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #593718
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I'm glad the board is back and to be back myself. You would think at age 73 and retired I would learn to keep my hands out of business but no. A local guy had a marine service and storage business. He was not really a business man. His wife wanted to sell the whole thing to have some sort of a retirement income. A couple of us went together and bought the whole business. I spent the last two years learning the marine service and storage business. Also along the way I had a complete knee replacement. The replacement went well. The question I now have is do you know of anyone who has the plans I could beg, borrow or steal to build a set of starting rollers for my '65 SH? The operation went well but I don't have the strength I used to have.

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #593761
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Like this?





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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Gary E] #593839
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Gary, Can I get the plans to your rollers?

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: snowbob] #593842
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Originally Posted By snowbob
Gary, Can I get the plans to your rollers?

There are no plans. Part of it was bought, part of it was fabricated.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #595176
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WTB - for '65 Spitfire Hornet, East Coast model. I need the bracket that holds the right side, side cover on.
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The right side cover is held on at the back with a bracket that is part of the tool box.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #596127
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Hi all.
Having just picked up my first British bike, I like those before me dived into the web in search of information and landed squarely here in the Hornets nest. What an awesome repository of knowledge!
Prior to posting I was going to read through all the history and I managed to get up to page 20 on the archive but for some reason the link at the start to pages 1-64 is not working for me? Tried on several different platforms as well?

So my first question is, how can I get back into the old pages?

What I appear to have purchased is a somewhat modified 1967 Hornet.
Engine number is A65HA9432-Y and Frame number is A50C.620
Do these look right?

Look forward to sharing and learning.

Cheers
Adrian


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #596131
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Adrian,

Welcome to the Forum, the BSA Board, and especially the Hornet thread. And welcome to the realm of Hornet owners, in my opinion, a special breed.

Your #9432-Y is a mid-year '67 production engine. Dispatched somewhere around December 1966. The frame A50C.620 is an early '66 model year, dispatched somewhere near September '65.

I'll check out the page 1 link. Be right back.

You are correct, the link is not working. I'll send a note to John, who is master of that link. The first 64 pages of this thread has everything you could ever want to know about these machines.

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