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#595577 - 04/19/15 6:44 am Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? ***  
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Hi All

I have a 1970 A65 Lightning resto project. I am told it was a US delivery bike, which the tank size and bar style seem to support.

What colour, finsh etc, should the tank badge be?

Some photos show it encased in a smooth plastic or resin, some show it simply painted..... Any photos of the correct badge would be fantastic.

Also side cover decal, the two flags, or the 650 lightning decal? Once again a pic would be great.

Many thanks
Nathan

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#595582 - 04/19/15 7:44 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Nathan]  
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Do a GOOGLE Image search for a 1970 BSA Lightning....you'll get lots of pics. My 1969 BSA Firebird has original diecast metal badges with raised rays that are plated with a gold type finish. A clear red tinted paint is used eith the BSA logo painted white. Then a clear coat is applied to the entire badge.

#595583 - 04/19/15 8:00 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Nathan]  
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I asked the question because HAVING DONE A GOOGLE SEARCH, many of the images shown have different badges and decals, obviously they are not all the correct ones for a 1970 lightning....

#595598 - 04/19/15 9:23 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Nathan]  
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These are the decals at the correct size ( some side panel decals are much larger and are wrong)
The correct blue is flamboyant aircraft blue, which is a candy paint. This was Peugeot Miami blue emy53e code.

I think the blue was only for west coast bikes.

The other option was flamboyant red candy. Again both have a silver base paint. The depth of colour is down to how many coats of paint you apply. I've painted my A65 and bantam in the same paint but applied twice as many coats of red to the bantam to give it a deeper colour.

These decals came from classic transfers and are spot on in quality.

The 68' two flag decal



And matching tank badge




Personally I'd stick with the 70' style if you have a 70' bike. But it's your choice.


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#595625 - 04/19/15 1:00 pm Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Nathan]  
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Allan has it right.


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1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
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#595631 - 04/19/15 1:14 pm Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Nathan]  
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I believe this is correct badge Nathan, albeit in need of TLC..



Just a few Beezers.. ☺

#595742 - 04/20/15 2:13 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Ian Clifton]  
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Originally Posted By Ian aka Frank
I believe this is correct badge Nathan, albeit in need of TLC..



Correct badge, again the colour scheme will vary spending on year.

As per photo is 68'

69' is red oval and white BSA

70' with the blue tank is ( almost black) blue oval, white bsa and all gold back ground, not sure about those bikes which were red.



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#595756 - 04/20/15 6:30 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Allan Gill]  
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Thanks Allan and others. That's the exact info I was after.

#595766 - 04/20/15 9:25 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Nathan]  
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I just posted some pictures of the tank badges I've recently given a makeover.
I used red Revel translucent enamel paint that you'll find in a plastic model shop. I think they use it to simulate brake lights. The white I did with some 2 pack K&B old formula epoxy paint I have from my model airplane stock of paints.
No flash techniques. Just decent fine hair brushes and a bit of care. The gold had pretty much all faded back to more of a straight chrome but they look pretty good.
I'm letting both the paints cure well and truly before giving them a first a mist coat and following it up when that's dry with a flow coat of 2 pack clear K&B.
Here they are prior to the final 2 pack.


Current: 2 x 1966 A65S, 1 x 1967 A65SA, 1 x 69/70? A65LA space Y, 1 X D14/4 & 1 x B175
Past: 4 x 1976 T160V, 1 74/5 T150V, 83 model GSX 750 ESD, Z650, Katana 1100(Bathurst Model), 79 T140V, 70's TR6, 2 x 1971 BSA 250 Gold Stars, 50's 350 Goldie, A65 Spitfire semi basket case, 1965/6? A65 LC, Tiger 21 350 & a D14/4 Bantam, 175 Bridgestone Twin with Zimmerman discs!
#595924 - 04/21/15 6:13 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: John Goodwin]  
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They look great John.

My father in law just learned how to do gold leaf for the stripes on his Vincent tank, so i'm all keen to have a crack also with the gold sections of the BSA badge.

I'll post up the results when I get it right.....

#595939 - 04/21/15 7:41 am Re: Correct tank badge and side cover Decals? [Re: Nathan]  
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Originally Posted By Nathan
They look great John.

My father in law just learned how to do gold leaf for the stripes on his Vincent tank, so i'm all keen to have a crack also with the gold sections of the BSA badge.

I'll post up the results when I get it right.....


I decided to have a play and see how they came up with the paints I had on hand and I'm not disappointed. I was thinking about going the whole hog and buying a pair of tank badges from Burtons in the UK, they work out at a reasonable Aussie $58 or 30 a side plus shipping.
Here's a pic, there's some real bling here! No messing around with the gold for these, just have to paint them and as I say, that's not too hard bigt
I'd even dig out the airbrush for the outer star burst pattern.
Then again I'm playing with Spitfires and will likely sell the scolloped Lightning/Firebird tank that uses the badges go once I've decided on which bike I'll keep.
I'm going to have to re coupe some of the funds the MK 2 is gulping up at the moment.

Here's a link to them at Burtons; http://britishbikebits.com/petrol-tanks/...-3#.VTYzA5MjbhU


Current: 2 x 1966 A65S, 1 x 1967 A65SA, 1 x 69/70? A65LA space Y, 1 X D14/4 & 1 x B175
Past: 4 x 1976 T160V, 1 74/5 T150V, 83 model GSX 750 ESD, Z650, Katana 1100(Bathurst Model), 79 T140V, 70's TR6, 2 x 1971 BSA 250 Gold Stars, 50's 350 Goldie, A65 Spitfire semi basket case, 1965/6? A65 LC, Tiger 21 350 & a D14/4 Bantam, 175 Bridgestone Twin with Zimmerman discs!

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