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Re: BSA paint [Re: leturner] #586453
02/20/15 12:41 am
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Thanks for sharing the info Leroy.


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Re: BSA paint [Re: Stuart] #586465
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Originally Posted By Stuart
Originally Posted By Two Alpha
Colour deliberately chosen as a nod to BSA
Ye-ea-ah ... how much do you know about the day-to-day relationship between Meriden and Small Heath? Let's just say the demise of BSA (the Group) wasn't in spite of a harmonious working relationship ... I believe you'll find it was more two fingers than nod ... laughing
I'm sure you've sorted out that it would have been Bert Hopwood that approved Cherokee Red for the 1974 T140V, may have even been his idea. It would have been a nod out of respect, not any of that other nonsense. smile


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Re: BSA paint [Re: leturner] #586497
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Now here I arrive to throw another wrench into the works:

Of the "reds" listed, which one did BSA use to paint the Rocket Threes they raced at Daytona in 1970-71 ?

Re: BSA paint [Re: leturner] #586896
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Originally Posted By leturner
OK guys,
This post has got a lot of response's.I needed some help now I'm going to help someone out there,Maybe?
I took one of the Hornet tanks down to the local paint supply stores,(PPG).They used a hand held device that told them what color and how to mix it.Now this is for the Mandarin Red.
I wanted a single stage urethane,under the PPG Omni brand.
This is what they came up with.
Tinting guide:MTK72441 Jaspe the color they called it.
M120 5.3
M111 143.6
M107 84.9
M130 111.2
M117 6.6
MX195 9.6
M149 178.1
Now I have not applied it as yet but it may be a tad on the red side than the orange.I have seen some out there that was really orange.This is more to my liking but may not be to someone else.
Mixed at 4 pt's paint 1pt MH 168 slow hardener and 1 pt MR 186 medium reducer.You may want to use something different on the hardener and reducer in your area.
Cheers,Leroy

There is definitely a difference between '66 Mandarin Red ('66 Hornet) and '66/'67 Cherokee Red ('66 Spitfire '67 Hornet/Spitfire).







And between '68 Peony Red ('68 Firebird/'68 Spitfire) and '66/'67 Cherokee Red ('67 Hornet/Spitfire, '66 Spitfire).


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Re: BSA paint [Re: Irish Swede] #586920
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Hi,

Originally Posted By Irish Swede
Of the "reds" listed, which one did BSA use to paint the Rocket Threes they raced at Daytona in 1970-71 ?

None; laughing the only thing "BSA" about the F750 triples was the logos on some of 'em; that and Steve Brown was seconded from Small Heath to Meriden.

All F750 triples (T150- and R3-based), with the production-racing T150's, were prepared in the Meriden Experimental Department under Doug Hele and Les Williams. The R3's were painted Hi-Fi Scarlet & White while the F750 T150's were painted Pacific Blue & White.

Hth.

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Re: BSA paint [Re: Gary E] #587060
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Thanks for reposting those images of your tanks here Gary. The one I've quoted below has got me wondering a bit.
The BSA twin parts books show /223 Peony Red, Ivory Panels, Single Gold Line for '66, '67 and '68, they don't show Cherokee Red at all but the two colours in your image are obviously different.
Would it be safe to say then that Cherokee Red equates to Flamboyant Red?
I know the brochures say Cherokee Red, it just seems to me that they would be referring to a colour that is in the parts book at least, albeit with a different name.

Originally Posted By Gary E
And between '68 Peony Red ('68 Firebird/'68 Spitfire) and '66/'67 Cherokee Red ('67 Hornet/Spitfire, '66 Spitfire).



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