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Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed #579309
01/03/15 9:10 pm
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I need to locate a Model 7 or 88 donor engine to help complete my 1950 Norton Model 7 project. Let me know what you have...thanks Steve

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Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #579439
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There have been quite a few Model 7 bits on US fleabay lately, they weren't any help ?
Saw your question on the NOC..
Engines from 1955 will have alloy heads, and from 1958 will have an alternator, so bear this in mind.
But anything will fit, if you don't mind how it looks.

Early 88 engine currently on aussie fleabay, but asking $$$ unrestored, and postage would be a killer.
Usually a scatter of them on UK fleabay too, but again that postage.

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #579561
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Guess I missed any Model 7 engines on US eBay, saw the '54 M88 engine lower half sell the other day. But, yes shipping anything into US would be too expensive. I'll just keep plugging away, hopefully something will show up bye summer. Not in any rush, just putting feelers out there incase someone know or has something. Thanks Steve

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #579581
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Be a little wary too of Phils claim that the Model 7 used ES2 cycleparts.
Apart from a few small misc bits, I've not found anything much that is interchangeable.
Although the later ES2's did use some Model 7 proven parts !

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #579582
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What engine parts are you after ?
There is still a crank and some cases there on eBay - and some very expensive other bits from a seller that seems to think they are gold ?

There is also a dealer in Oz with a big stash of parts, although he is a bit pricey, and there is that postage again.

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #579589
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Won't know exactly what parts I need until I get engine back. I'm not that mechnical, so I was given a person's name who would put engine together. He called me and said there was too much missing & would cost to much for him put together. So, I'm just going off what he told him over the phone. I thought most of the engine was there, but I guess I was wrong. I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but just thought if I could find another donor motor that was complete, that would take the mystery out of what is missing. I have the magneto,generator,all the major parts, so it must be internally that's missing...What norton bikes do you have?

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Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #579595
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Model 7's to begin with.

Did your engine builder give any hint as to what was missing.

T-shirts are even available these days with diagrams and parts lists... !
Commando, so not entirely helpful - but close.

https://www.motomania.nl/cgi-bin/db/db.c...p;ref=motomania



Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: Rohan] #580210
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No, other than I pretty sure he mentioned push rods. Once the weather clears up, I'm going to go pu motor and I'll ask him exactly what was all missing.

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #580250
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Every spare iron engine I've had anything to do with was missing its steel pushrods. !
If thats all that was missing, he was easily flummoxed...

You'd have to chuckle at the 'experts' too on the NOC Forum these days ?
No mention that the dommie etc timing cover screws are WHITWORTH ??
http://www.nortonownersclub.org/noc-chat/technical2-heavy-twins-forum/679703798

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #580342
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The early norton stuff is a bit tough to source here in the US.
Push rods are listed here at RGM:
RGM push rods
I got a new finned rear brake drum/sprocket from them...just a few months ago.

The NOC forum is dominated by a few just like any forum. Therefore the quality of info is limited in scope and accuracy. The NOC "tech" files are dominated by the old NOC-L forum posting and again is as accurate or inaccurate as those posts also.
The old wives tails are never going to die. Commando clutches are a prime example..... 2c


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Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: Rohan] #580550
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Going to go pu motor this week, so should know more about whats missing. He did mention also that I had the wrong gearbox also. I'm assuming model 7 & 88 used the same gearbox, looking thru Bacon norton restoration book. Looks like thru '56 were identical. I'm not trying to put together a 100% restoration, so just wanting to get close. There is a transmission on eBay right now that looks like it might work and its here in the States.

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: Dave Comeau] #580551
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Dave--thanks for info on pushrods. I see you have a '52 Model 7, is your bike finished or are you still working on it? Any pics? Steve

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #580557
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Your pics show that you have the correct outer covers for a laydown gearbox.
Can't tell if the main gearbox housing is the correct one from that angle.

The laydown box on fleabay also has a gearlever ?
Not so easy to find those gearlevers ?, but it should be chrome...
The 7 and 88 gearboxes are about nearly the same, the differences are only very slight.

Fairly accurate restos of Model 7's are on the NOC website.
http://www.nortonownersclub.org/models/heavy-twins/dominator-images/0043.jpg
http://www.nortonownersclub.org/models/heavy-twins/dominator-images/0044.jpg
That would appear to be a 1950 year model.

Only the black lower fork legs and then alloy front brake plate changed for later years.

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: Rohan] #580569
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Rohan--not for sure if I have all the internal gears and such for gearbox, so maybe if I got lucky on the auction one, I would have a complete one and sell off the remaining parts.

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: Dave Comeau] #580570
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Dave--do you know who sells the replacement finned rear brake drum/sprocket studs & nuts? Steve

Re: Norton Model 7 or Model 88 Engine Parts Needed [Re: steven allen] #580580
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as above:
I got a new finned rear brake drum/sprocket from them...just a few months ago.
them is RGM
about 60GBP+S+H

The hardware will be tougher to find


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