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how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? #564987
09/26/14 2:52 am
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hello, just a question really. does anyone know how many bsa alloy clippers were made. 1955 engine number starts at BB34 A 301 and 1956 engine number starts at BB34 A 351 but there is no number for the start of 1957. my bike is in the 600's on engine number and a forum members bike that was on here was engine number BB34 A 700. i wouldnt have thought that they went past this number but is there any info out there. they are a rare bike and thats for sure. cheers. billy.

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Re: how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? [Re: billy banger] #565031
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mine is the one with CB 34700A on,
there cant be many in the uk thats for sure and they must be rearer than any gold star, i was at a bike show last weekend (small club meet) and there were a few gold stars and only my Clipper
Paul

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Paul. I just picked up a 1954-55 road legal Alloy Clipper!!

Re: how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? [Re: nortonhybrid] #570460
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Looks just like a Goldie !!

Re: how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? [Re: billy banger] #570468
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far more around now than ever came out of BSA gates that's for sure , same goes for all gold stars , some are better than others , but as a general rule , no dispatch record then walk away

Re: how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? [Re: billy banger] #570484
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Any pictures nortonhydrid, mine is road legal you dont need light here to ride them.great bikes nice and light
I was told you wont find any dispatch records for the clippers.

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I have also been told this but I think this is a little strange as the records exist for other machines inc export models why should these be missing ? a few clippers have come up for sale on eBay over the last few years in the UK , none had history or records and I did go to look at one , usual story private collection/museum etc , it was a B31 with a alloy top end and a very poor attempt at a fake , but 7,600 I hope it did not sell , the garage where selling for a customer which is another cop out .

appears to be records here http://www.britbike.com/bsapitstop/dating/1951-60.html

this is what I see to often http://www.usedmotors4sale.co.uk/detail/Used-1955-BSA-B32-Alloy-clipper/pBBYYAdXXdBeBEYdpBd.html

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Re: how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? [Re: billy banger] #570508
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your notice there are no numbers, frame or engine on that list for a 57 alloy clipper
i am lead to belive all alloy clippers were 57 and all other years are just competition models
Paul

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One of the questions that I cannot answer is when the use of the 'Clipper' name came into use.

Since the ZB series there have been Factory produced non GS engines with alloy top ends, ZB33A (maybe ZB31A), ZB32A/34A and BB32A/34A. Around here the only use of the name 'Clipper' was for the BB32A/34A CB34 framed swingarm machines of 1956 and 1957. Before that time they were just known as alloy engines.

In other threads there has been discussion of BB32A/34A engines being shipped to the US for various uses by Hap Alzina and of US made frames being matched up to these engines.

As well there are CB34 frames with full BB34 GS engines sometimes referred to as GS Competition or trials machines. Would these be Clippers or Gold stars?

One 1957 US advert calls it the 'New Alloy Clipper', in another 57 advert it is merely listed with the other machines. I can find no examples of earlier uses of the name.

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Re: how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? [Re: paul67] #570512
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Originally Posted By: paul67
your notice there are no numbers, frame or engine on that list for a 57 alloy clipper
i am lead to belive all alloy clippers were 57 and all other years are just competition models
Paul




No, not for '57 but yes for '56. It also shows the frame number starting with EB34. I personally have never seen a EB34 frame number in 40 plus years of owning Gold Stars and Clippers, they have all been CB34. The Clippers were leftover mongrels that Hap Alzina, the US West coast BSA distributor, conjured up to help BSA get rid of an excess of BB engine castings and at a lower cost than for a Gold Star. IMHO, the '57's were leftover '56's and titled later. Over those 40 plus years I have owned, I think, seven Clippers and still have three in my possession.


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Re: how many bsa alloy clippers were built ? [Re: Boomer] #570517
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Originally Posted By: Boomer
get rid of an excess of BB engine castings and at a lower cost than for a Gold Star.
As Boomer wrote, the least expensive 500cc Gold Star in 1957 (Catalina) had a retail price on the West Coast of $957.08, while the Alloy Clipper was a full ~$110 cheaper at $847.48. Corrected for inflation, that price difference is equivalent to a not-insignificant ~$930 in today's dollars.

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The February 1956 issue of 'Cycle' contains BSA's announcement of the models for that year. There's no mention of an Alloy Clipper. However, in the February 1957 issue the announcement for that year says:

New Sports Model, Alloy Clipper: Not heretofore generally available in the U.S.A. is the BSA "Alloy Clipper" model. This is set up a a competitively priced off-the-road model, without electrical equipment or "frills". It has an alloy cylinder barrel and head, lightweight frame and extra ground clearance. Included in the "specs" are solo saddle, special sports muffler, speedometer, "trials" type handlebars. The Alloy Clipper has Silver and chrome 2 gallon sport tank, chrome fenders, black frame.

A photograph in the article is captioned The 1957 350 c.c. and 500 c.c. "Alloy Clipper" model.


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