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A65 Rearset Break Pedal #471890
01/11/13 9:50 pm
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Was going to post this on the Clubman thread but see it is locked, so here goes.
I am in the process of getting ready install rear sets to my 70 A65 and have been working with a few members here for drawings and info on the clubman rear sets. I have most of what I need, (NOS rear set brackets, the hangers, foot pegs,the hanger studs) what I am not sure of is the break pedal. There have been different ideas out there such as a C15 pedal that would require some tweaking. I found this on eBay uk BSA Goldstar Clubman Break Pedal

Would this be the way to go even if I had to tweak it a bit?

I know you kids like pictures....So here is what they will be going on.




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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #471898
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Yesh we like pictures! Lovely that one: Bridgestone S11's and some kind of weird fairing on the front of the side covers but I likeee.

We request more pictures of your rear-set set-up after the install...

...yesh yesh!


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #471948
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If you can find one, the BSA P/N is 68-6035 for at least one of the brake pedals. But, period pictures show several different brake pedals. A Bantam brake pedal can be modified to work as well.

I have a GS rear set brake pedal and have not compared to see how close it is to fitting a LC. Guess I could check if I can remember eek


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Rich B] #472012
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Hi Rich...Would like to PM you but your PM box is full.
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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #472457
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Can anyone tell me if this will fit a 70 A65 gear change quadrant spline? I want to keep parts that I am changing stock and I need to put a bend in it to clear the kick start.

gear change lever

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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #472461
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Wont fit , spline diameter is greater on B31.


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: gavin eisler] #472885
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Can anyone tell me if this will fit a 70 A65 gear change quadrant spline? I want to keep parts that I am changing stock and I need to put a bend in it to clear the kick start.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-T150-T...=item35c36923a3


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: ] #472911
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Thanks Gavin
Thanks Allan, just might give the Bantam a try.
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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: ] #473091
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No mock up yet Allan, just now getting all the bits I will need.

Originally Posted By: Allan Gill
Do you have a mock up of your rear sets? I can't see auto cycle having these levers for long


Not sure what you are referring to about auto cycle and levers.

What I do have is not all here yet, been getting a bunch of help from Rich B, rbt1548, VicCyclone. Rich and Vic have sent me drawaings that have been a big help. Rich turned me on to British Only that had a NOS Clubman break pedal, last one they had in stock, that was a big score.
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Waiting for Cpt.Cook to get here from the old country, he will be bringing two parcels.

FOOTREST ASSEMBLY

Rear set Bracket


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #473567
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Allan....I know you say only a A65 and Bantam gear change lever will work on a A65. Going to give it one more try before I bend up a A65 lever grin

gear change lever

There is another listing that is selling a lever that claims it will fit BSA C15/B40/A50/A65 gear change Lever (new)

lever

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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #490622
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Well after a long haul I finally got my rear sets on. Would like to thank Rich B and rbt1548 for their help with drawings and info. Rich that tip on the BSA P/N 68-6035 break pedal was the icing on the cake. I got the last NOS they had from Rabers. The foot peg brackets I found on eBay England.

The biggest problem I had with the project was finding a machine shop to make the other parts. There were plenty of small shops around years ago that one could get things machined at a reasonable price. Now they are all gone and I was left with 3 or 4 large shops that do large commercial work. Took the drawings to two of the shops and just about fell over when they quoted me a price. First shop wanted $1,900 for the ten pieces I needed. The second one wanted $1,700. I started looking around for friends of friends that might do it and found the first guy. After 3 weeks of saying he could do it for $700 he passed on it and gave me a name of a friend of his that would do it for $800. Still a lot for the amount of work, but I was already into this with the other parts and I realy wanted rear sets on the bike. He took almost 4 weeks to finish them because he was doing it as a side job. He did most of the work on a CNC machine. He works for a small company that builds parts for satellite cameras and other instruments going into space. Not the machine shop of old. Looked more like a hospital operating room.

I must say I am very happy with them. I have ace bars on the bike and with the stock pegs it was never that comfortable leaning forward. My legs were to cramped, now they are stretched out and much more comfortable. Was not sure how I would like the reversed shift pattern but I now like it better than stock.

Couple of pics. of the rear set parts and such.





















Again a big thanks to all for the help.


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #490632
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That really looks the business! some nice machinery work gone on there and a big thank you for all the pictures.

Just a note in the last picture, it looks like your silencer bracket is fixed to the rear shock mount on the swing arm? if so, something is going to break (apologies if I have not seen this correctly).

Also how do you find the bike with the extra length on the exhaust pipes? when I added the kick ups only, I found it brought the torque peak down by about 1500 rpm, it gave more power in the lower sector.


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #490634
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The peg set up looks great but the whole bike is fantastic, good on ya

Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #490635
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Looks awesome! I've contemplated doing this to my cafe Lightning,but I wasnt sure what was required. Someone needs to start making these kits, and making them available.

Again, great looking ride!

Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #490717
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Your bike looks amazing. It literally took me 5 minutes to find that rear brake pedal in that picture! ha ha!! I love how clean the brake assembly looks.


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #490918
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That's nice! I wish someone sold a kit of parts like that for $800, I'd have a set in a Birmingham minute ....

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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #491138
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The pieces look great, as does the bike. It is amazing how comfortable the rear sets on a BSA actually are....and the reversed shifter is addicting...now you need to find the CR gear sets and really appreciate how sweet the shifter and gearbox can be!

Thanks for using the drawings, making the parts, and sharing the pics!

Lannis, BSA Nut,

For all the people I have sent those drawings to. this is the first time I have seen the pieces actually made and installed. It is a lot of work. And depending on where you live, the machining is problematic. I seriously doubt people will actually pay what it truly is worth to make these in any number. I sold several sets of the fabricated bits and ran into resistance at the prices I was asking in 2005.


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Lannis] #491310
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I already had the footpegs, the mounting plates and the hex studs but I got all of the rest of the kit including the bent k/s. gear lever and a cast alloy brake pedal from the late Dave Jenner for less than 300 about 2 years ago. Dave used to make up the kits in small batches so it can be done at reasonable prices.

The mounting plates are not that uncommon, George Prew the Gold Star man sells the footrest hangers. Apart from the brake link plate, the rest of the parts are fairly straightforward lathe work not big value items. At some of the prices mentioned above I would be tempted to hand cut the plate


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: VicCyclone] #491476
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Here's a few videos of the brake and gear linkage I made for rearsets on my roadrocket, it worked out very cheap, I hope you like them




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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Rich B] #502821
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Originally Posted By: Rich B

It is amazing how comfortable the rear sets on a BSA actually are....and the reversed shifter is addicting...now you need to find the CR gear sets and really appreciate how sweet the shifter and gearbox can be!


Rich...I got the c/r 1st and 2nd on the bike last week.

You are 100% right about how sweet it is

Around town with stop and go traffic I always found myself having to shift from 1st to second to only have to come to a stop as soon as I would get in 2nd. With a taller 1st that takes care of that. Then in traffic a little faster the jump from 2nd to 3rd would drop the rpm's to low, with taller 2nd I can just stay in second. Do have to feather the clutch a bit in 1st, but no big thing.

Now for open country and some nice twisties....boy that is what I'm talking about...you are corect in that c/r and reversed shifting is addicting and sweet.


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Re: A65 Rearset Break Pedal [Re: Roger Gulledge] #502832
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Another convert!!! Sweet.

Yep, twisties are where the CR box and reverse shift really shines, but in traffic the CR box is nice too. In slow going, I frequently don't even shift out of first.

Glad you like it!


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