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Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin #457282
10/04/12 10:12 pm
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Hello All,

I am going back home for my sister's wedding and I've been contacted by a guy that wants to sell his Triumph Speed Twin '39. He say that has a few missing parts, but it was running. I will see it next week. I wonder how much should I pay for it? Taking in account that I have to ship it overseas from South America. Anyone had a similar experience?

I appreciate any advice. Cheers!

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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: vasco] #457304
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I don't know values for a 39 Speed Twin, sorry.
Is the bike to be a rider? A show bike?
If a rider, a compression test will reveal useful information. If the owner allows, ride the machine for at least ten miles. Listen carefully all the while for untoward noises. The top end should sound like a sewing machine with no knocks etc.
If your interest is as a show bike, well, you've some homework to do!
HTH dave


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: Dave M] #457353
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Thank you Dave! I am still deciding about what to do. I have a project (posted in the forum) that is has been going very slow lately. Part, because of my budget right now. I have the money that he is asking for (5k) and depending of the condition of the bike it might be a good deal. He mentioned that he will consider a lower offer as well, as soon is reasonable.
I would love to buy and keep the bike, although I don't know if it will be a daily rider. I know that opportunities to buy a motorcycle like this one at a decent price is not easy to come by. Still need to see it to decide. I will promise pictures of the bike before making any decision.
Thank you again, Dave. Cheers

Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: vasco] #457358
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I have no idea of USA values ( or South American ones) but I'd get a value for a comparable bike in the States and also the rough asking price plus shipping.

I'd be surprised if you ended up with a bargain. unless the SA bikes are cheap

Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: vasco] #457498
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Go for it and try to find the 'missing' parts while you are there.
They might be just around the next corner.

An offer or oppourtunity like yours might not come around again.

Even if it doesn't run- you can just look at it!
Good luck and god speed!
Urgent!


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: vasco] #457620
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Go for it, these bikes dont come up very often. I have been waiting 5 years for one that has been in bits for 50 years, guy keeps saying he wants to get rid of it, then decides he will do it "one day" (he wont!!!)



Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: tbird649] #459160
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Hi Guys,

Thank you for your advice. I went yesterday and I saw the bike. It has been restored, but not to original. I has several missing parts... most of them critical (rare and expensive). He is asking 5,000 dollars. I am not sure about spending that amount. The market for old british bikes is huge here, but the key is to meet the right people. Most of the bikes offered online are very expensive and comparable to US, UK prices.

Here is the bike that I went to see:


Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: vasco] #459162
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If I had $5000.00 to spend right now, I'd buy that so fast it would make YOUR head spin. Then again, I am a Pre-Unit fanatic and most likely looking at it differently than you. Rest assured that regardless of whether it is in stock condition or as it is now, it is a very presentable bike and a 1939 Speed Twin...pre-war, so these things are highly sought after and worth every penny.

Only thing I see that would need to be fixed on the frame if bringing it back to stock is the lower, smaller diameter frame tube above the engine is missing..the one that is below the top backbone...or top main tube...etc.etc.

Other than that, it looks very good and I would be happy with it as is and realize over time that the original parts could be collected at your leisure to spread the cost and one day present it as a 1939 Speed Twin in factory spec or as near to factory spec as possible.

Good luck and hopefully it comes to U.S. soil !


Jon W.


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: vasco] #459171
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Originally Posted By: vasqo



I am aghast.


Amateur Loctite enthusiast.
Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: triton thrasher] #459184
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Quote:
I am aghast.


I'm not,

My comments before you posted the picturestill stands.

Would beg, borrow or steal to bring that one home!


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: triton thrasher] #459205
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Originally Posted By: triton thrasher

I am aghast.


Synonyms for aghast:

afraid, agape, agog, alarmed, amazed, anxious, appalled, astonished, astounded, awestruck, confounded, dismayed, dumbfounded, frightened, horror-struck, overwhelmed, shocked, startled, stunned, terrified, thunderstruck

That covers alot of ground, triton! smile

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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: JubeePrince] #459210
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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: JubeePrince] #459216
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Originally Posted By: JubeePrince
Originally Posted By: triton thrasher

I am aghast.


Synonyms for aghast:

afraid, agape, agog, alarmed, amazed, anxious, appalled, astonished, astounded, awestruck, confounded, dismayed, dumbfounded, frightened, horror-struck, overwhelmed, shocked, startled, stunned, terrified, thunderstruck

That covers alot of ground, triton! smile

Steve

I guess I am also aghast, and to further define that, I would choose these synonyms from Steve's list: amazed, astonished, awestruck, and startled (not necessarily in that order).

That sure isn't what I expected to see when vasqo said he would post the picture of a 1939 Speed Twin. The first thing I thought was, who would do that to a '39 Speed Twin. Then I thought, well it's 73 years old. It could have happened a long time ago. Then I thought, how totally cool would it be to own that thing? I doubt anyone will see another 73 year old Speed Twin that looks anything like that. I would buy it and not change a single thing on it. I think it is a work of art! Even if it didn't run, it would be worth $5K to park it where you could stare at it. Of course, it would be a blast to be able to ride it. I say go for it before it's gone. You can't go wrong. Someday, when you are older and stinky rich, find a 1938 in original condtion and park them side by side.


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: JBMorris] #459236
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That is too cool JB !!




Originally Posted By: JBMorris


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: Jon W. Whitley] #459247
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If you like it get it but personally I out grow choppers in the 1970s.


If you see my motorcycle on a trailer call the police it is stolen.

5 more states excluding Hawaii I will have them all on one motorcycle.

Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: Jeff46u] #459273
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The guy couldn't even be arsed to get the correct shade of Amaranth Red......

mad

Bob


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: Phatt Bob] #459532
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Awful, possibly criminal, calling a lawyer.


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: vasco] #459797
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Sacrilige aside wink (It probably started life as sorry looking relic anyway) I quite like it, but I'd drop the headlamp 6" or so.

Hey, its a Brit back on the road!

Bob


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: Phatt Bob] #459804
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Hi vasgo

I went and took a look at your 67 T120R project over in the project forum.

vasgo's project

Looks like you have a good, methodical approach to your restoration.

I nabbed this quote from you….

Quote:
and an old guy contacted me offering his Speed Twin 1939. He cannot ride anymore and the bike has been seating in his garage for two years


How old was he? 50? laughing


Prewar Speed Twins are among my favorite bikes. My taste tends more towards stock with the wonderful art of Edward Turner.

As said already, it depends what you are after. It seems like a good deal if you want a custom. It looks well done just looking at the picture. I don’t see much left of the ’39 if you are after an original restoration.


Beljum

PS: I had a line on 39 T100 basket a few years ago. I actually won the eBay bid at $5K but didn’t meet the reserve ($7K). Couldn’t swing the cash at the time…someone in Canada ended up with it. I planned to go all original with that one.


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Re: Question about Triumph 1939 Speed twin [Re: Jon W. Whitley] #465075
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Just noticed the thread so thought I'd add my two cents worth. To me it just looks like just another custom bike. The fact that it is supposedly a '39 Speed Twin is beside the point - you have to look hard to see it and it probably wouldn't mean anything to the people who are interested in that style of machine. Given that pre-war Triumph bits are thin on the ground I expect it would cost far more than the bike is worth to try to restore it back to stock.

It may be worth five grand as a custom bike but I wouldn't attach a lot of importance to the '39 Speed Twin story.

Bruce


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