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#44388 - 09/29/05 3:30 pm Cad plating??? who, where?  
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It's finally time for the final disassemble, for plating and painting.
Who knows of a decent, fair, Cadmium plater?


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#44389 - 09/29/05 3:42 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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I've used Quality Plating in Salt Lake City, great quality, and they have never lost a single nut, bolt, washer, etc. I've sent them.

www.qualityplating.com

#44390 - 09/29/05 5:46 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Great..thanks, I'll go there now.
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#44391 - 09/29/05 6:56 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Had a thread about this a while ago. Place I use is Aero Propeller & Accessories in Bloomfield Colorado. 303 469 1749 They do my hardware, nice work.


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#44392 - 09/29/05 9:55 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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I have heard of a couple of places in Oregon and Reno, I will try and get some names. Prices in California are pretty high with the environmental rules. Alot of people send there stuff away.


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#44393 - 09/29/05 11:56 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Most commercial platers can give you the finish you need. You should ask for No.1 clear cadmium.The problem is most platers have a minimum order. My last order at Burbank Plating in Pacoima cost $100.00 but for that I had 30 lb of assorted parts plated,enough for two bikes! B.M.L.S.

#44394 - 09/30/05 1:44 am Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Hers two for now...

If you're willing to ship, I highly recommend Kerr West in Arizona. I used them for both of my rollbars, and they did a great job. They sandblasted off the powdercoat from FFR, and the chrome job they did is very high-quality. It's holding up well so far, and is smooth and clear. Pricing was very reasonable -- especially compared to the quotes I got in CA.

Cheers, John

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There is an EXCELLENT shop here in Sac. Sherms plating http://www.shermsplating.com/ that does absolutely incredible work. They vary there prisces from street to show to concours. they will quote you just about anything over the net or phone as well.

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#44395 - 09/30/05 6:57 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Thanks guys.....I'll be using qualityplating.com in utah. 65 minimum includes "baking" to preserve temper on springs, washers and hard nuts.
Two week turnaround.
Bingada Bongada Boom.
The chrome gave a shock that lasted two days and it'll hit me again when I actually pay for it. OUCH. Next time I'm shipping out of state.


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#44396 - 09/30/05 7:42 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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hi, believe the main reason to bake stressed parts as springs,spokes,high strenth steels,etc is to reduce hydrogen embrittlement. out east is akron plating 330 773 6878.........ja

#44397 - 10/01/05 10:49 am Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Akron Plating does not do cad. But I have seen their chrome work, do a nice job with chrome.

If you want real cad, ask questions first. Many of the platers are using zinc plating with a dye to emulate cad. Real cad is hard to find. Engineers who work in the fasterner industry prefer cad over zinc. But unfortunately, environmental issues with cad have reduced the amount of cad platers left in business. Zinc does not give you the corrosion protection or lubricity at assembly that cad does.

Hydrogen embrittlement is an issue with any form of fastener plating. Zinc requires extra care on high strength fasteners.

All this from someone who has had to learn way more than he ever wanted to about fasteners......


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#44398 - 10/01/05 3:33 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Has anyone tried electroless nickle plating? If I recall correctly, Caroll Smith in his book "Prepare to Win" , recommended it for race car suspension parts like radius rods and A-arms. Supposedly it is tough, cheap and does not have the hydrogen embrittlement issues. I believe it can actually be done at home. I am thinking of looking into that when I get ready to sanitize the fasteners on my Daytona - right after I get it running well.

#44399 - 10/05/05 3:57 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Has anyone tried a home plating kit?
Not sure but I think Eastwood or someone sells
one?
JR...

#44400 - 10/05/05 6:58 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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I've bought a couple of the Caswell kits and have been quite happy with the results. Once you've done all the work yourself, you do gain an appreciatin for why plating costs what it does.


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#44401 - 10/05/05 7:11 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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for my two cents.... I have never been happy with the cad kits or the fake chrome kits... Maybe it is me.... but it just doesn't quite get the look that I am after and it not real consistent... after assembly you can see that one bolt head is a little different than others... I think depending on price it is better to go with a good firm. This goes the same for the powder coating... I powdercoated a bunch of smaller parts for a bike I rebuilt and then had the frame done by professionals... I then had to take the other pieces to the pro to redo for me.. it just did not go together...

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#44402 - 12/14/05 2:34 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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Try looking at the Caswell Plating Electroplating forum. You will find that cheap and great looking Cad plating is fairly easy once you get the hang of it

#44403 - 12/14/05 4:55 pm Re: Cad plating??? who, where?  
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I tried the caswell kit. Even bought the high speed low drag rectifier. Spent a couple hundred bucks. I still couldn't get anything plated. The help line guys were worthless. I finally gave up and sent my stuff to Quality Plating in SLC, Utah. I sent about 12 pounds of nuts, bolts, norton exhaust mounting plates, etc to Quality. They called me with the bill last night ... about $100 bucks plus freight. I have not received the replated items yet. Comments I've read on this list indicate Quality does good work.
Anybody want to buy a rectifier?


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