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Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? #404879
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Entering into my first full rebuild - '68 TR6. Does anyone have any suggestion/plans for a simple engine stand. I have bench space and could make floor space for a stand. I'm just into the top-end with the motor still in the frame but will soon pull the motor and it needs a home! Any advice, lessons learned, suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks everyone.

-Simon

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Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #404888
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This is just a personal view and I guess other posters will have their own (probably different )views.
One of the best investments I have ever made is a bike lift. Not the little things that just go under the bike but a full length lift that you roll the bike onto.
This gives a good (and variable) height to work on various parts of the bike.
How does this relate to the question of the engine stand?--one might ask.
Well I use the bike lift to strip down the engine (and other parts of the bike).
With particular reference to the engine I strip off the head, barrel, primary drive, clutch, alternator, timing cover, timing gears, gearbox including outer and inner covers and gear sets.
Then I take the remains of the engine out of the frame. By then it is easy to lift and adjust. I then split the cases on the bench and rebuild the cases on the bench.
There are engine stands available on E-Bay for about $50 and these are rotatable (if that is a word) but I have never used one.
As soon as the cases are together I put it into the frame---at this stage it doesnt weigh much so you can install it without messing up the paint on the frame.
I then build the rest of the engine in the frame using the bike lift to get everything to a good working height.
HTH

Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #404899
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Lotsa folks just clamp 'em in a vice with a little prop to hold the weight. I went ahead and did

this

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Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #404920
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Interesting topic. Trident man makes an excellent point, and the bike itself is likely the best "stand". However, there are other times that a free standing fixture is useful. As noted, they are available fairly cheap or you can build your own. I've done both, with satisfactory results.

Here's one I bought off eBay for unit BSA's works pretty well.



This one I built, originally for a Triumph I think, presently being modified to handle a Matchless.



However, there are times that you need to adapt. For example:



I built this stand for a P11 project, because it wasn't enough just to get the bike up in the air. I had to get under it to get the motor and trans spacing right. I still use this stand for other bikes, mostly pre-unit types that need alignment. Easy to build and works like a charm.

So you have options. Just buy a simple stand or better yet use your imagination. Design and build what works best for your particular situation. grin

PS. Pardon the mess of my shop workbench. Been a really nasty summer!

Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #404941
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I do it like Bel. As far as a bike stand goes I'm looking for another box like I used to have. A RevTech engine box would do nicely.
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Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #404946
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I bought one of the stands from eBay from seller vwalley1 and I like it. It bolts right to your work bench or anywhere you want it too and you can turn your engine 360 degrees.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIUMPH-650-750-...=item2a160e1d64


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Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #404975
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Check out the reply from bp131 on this subject in the Jockey Journal Board Forum.

http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90025&highlight=engine+stand&page=2

Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #404991
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Here is one I made in an hour or so from on-hand stuff. Near bottom of page and on a few subsequent pages:

http://bullfire.net/Triumph/Triumph3/Triumph3.html



For just a little more, you can do it yourself!
Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: ed_h] #404995
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When an engine is in the stand, you can't work on the innards of the bottom end, so it'll be on the bench for at least 1/3 of a teardown, and 1/3 of the rebuild.

I'm seriously considering just installing a 2nd large vice (never fails you end up needing it when you have an engine clamped in it).


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Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Simon Kavanagh] #405044
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Me too--one 4" vice and one 6" vice---the latter holds the engine when out of the bike.
But--as soon as the crankcase halves are together it is into the bike frame and do the rest of the assembly using the bike lift to get a good working height.
This way the engine is at its lightest as you put it back in the frame---the frame that you have lovingly repainted and dont want to damage.
Works for me but---everyone to their own--it would be a strange old world if we all did everything the same.
HTH

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm sure I'll be back with more questions as I get into the project!

Cheers,
Simon

Re: Engine Stand Recommendations/Suggestions? [Re: Tridentman] #405171
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Originally Posted By: Tridentman
Me too--one 4" vice and one 6" vice---the latter holds the engine when out of the bike. But--as soon as the crankcase halves are together it is into the bike frame and do the rest of the assembly using the bike lift to get a good working height.This way the engine is at its lightest as you put it back in the frame---the frame that you have lovingly repainted and dont want to damage. Works for me but---everyone to their own--it would be a strange old world if we all did everything the same.HTH


Yes, and the engine properly braced in the frame gives you far better leverage for torquing the main crank & clutch nuts (and everything else).


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