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69 Victor rear sprocket #400472
10/24/11 6:09 pm
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Hey guys this past weekend i decided to take my 69 Victor out fer a ride since I just got it runnin not to long ago. After a quick trip down the road it was too cold so I headed out to my field and took a lap around a trail I've got. But when I came to the hill I couldn't go up the trail cause my speed in first gear was too high to manuver around the trees.

I decided to see if one of my other Victor projects had a larger rear sprocket and the one on my 67 is a nice big'un. But to be sure i checked the parts books and the 67 and 69 both list the same rear sprocket and chain size which is a 5/8"x1/4". But lookin at the 69 I can see it's got a 530 like my T140V has and the 67 looks to be a 520 as it's definetely skinnier.

Is my parts book wrong or did someone change sprockets for a 530 chain? Thanks, Hillbilly

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Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400474
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I believe all B44's came with 520 chain and sprockets.

A nice modification for trail riding a B44 is to put a B25 engine sprocket and primary chain on. That way you don't end up with a ginormous rear sprocket.


A smattering:
'53 Gold Flash
'67 Royal Star
'71 Rickman Metisse
'40 Silver Star
'37 Rudge Special
sixtyseventy Lightboltrocket road racer...and many more.
Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400479
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All but the early B44's came with 520 chains, early B44 Victor Enduro's with the C15 6" rear brake came with a 428 chain.

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: kommando] #400482
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So did the Victor GPs have 1/2" X.305 chain with the unfinned 1/2 width hub and the sprocket bolted on from the inside.


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Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400487
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I've got a 66 project that I was gonna start on after this 69 but I wound up with a 73 B50MX so it'll be next. But the 66 has the C15 style rear wheel like Kommando says. The 67 has a huge rear sprocket on it I can swap out on the 69.

Alex I didn't know the B25 was geared lower this way. I'll keep that in mind when I rebuild the engine fe the 67.

Thanks to the both of ya'll as it seems you two answer most of my B44 questions!

I'll check and see why the 69 has the 530 and switch out the 69's rear fer the 67s so I can play in the woods. At 58 I don't care to fly through the woods like I did in my teens! I'd just as soon go slow and not hit stuff. Thanks guys, Hillbilly

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400490
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I just went out to the shop and looked at the 69 real close and it's got the wrong chain. I got the 69 from a Harley guy so that could explain the 530. This is great as I can borrow the gear and chain from the 67 as it won't be needin it fer a while. Cheap fix! thanks guys, Hillbilly

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400491
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Hilbilly, Thats interesting that the 530 fitted, does it rub on the engine castings at all, if it doesn't then you can fit a 520 X ring as that is the same width as a 530 but fits the 520 sprockets. I have a 428 X ring on my 69 Victor as the 66 rear wheel was virtually free.

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400492
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I've not got even 5 miles on the bike yet since i got it runnin. I don't hear a chain rub but with the 441's exhaust I don't know if'n I could if I tried.

I'll be puttin the 69 and the 67 on milk crates to change the rear sprockets and I'll check the 69 fer crankcase wear. I didn't notice anything shiny on the chain tho so my guess is it must fit altho it does move side to side a bit. When I pull the chain I'll rub my fingers on the cases and see how things look and tell ya.

I can see why the 66 wheel was darn near free as it's a bit on the heavy side and I was wonderin about how affective the brake is. I hope to git to my 66 soon and bring it back to life. I was gonna swap theat big ol rear hub out with a QD unit but decided to keep it as original as possible.

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400496
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Well Komanndo you made me curious so I strolled on out to the shop and took another look at the 69 and since i don't have a chainguard i can see the chain real easy and it doesn't hit a thing. Looks to be all kinds of room there for a X ring chain. The 530 flops from side to side and is a good bit from the cases.

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400505
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Thanks for the info, the smaller brake is surprisingly good, I can lock the rear wheel with a heavy boot. Alex's C15 MX has the same brake but modified to take the QD hub which should loose a lot of the excess weight.

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400583
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Komanndo I've got the BB calander from a couple years back hangin in the shop and it's opened to the page with your bike, GoldstarFreddie's Goldie and GranPauls 441. I had to look real close to see the rear wheel was different. Also noticed your breather mod like the B50s.

I'm gonna swap the gear and rear wheels from the 67 to the 69 as the 67 has a knobby tire. And right after i git back from a ride on the T140V I'm hittin the woods on the Victor! I'll ride it on my property first then hit the big woods behind the house. It's bright and sunny with a high around 67 today. I'm ridin Brit bikes all day!(least ways till my clutch hand gives out!) Hillbilly

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400632
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So, Hillbilly...Where are you in S.E. Ohio? Don't believe I have had the pleasure. Feel free to pm me if you want. If we have met and I forgot, I apologize...

Bill


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Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #400981
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No Nome Man (Mr. Bill) I'm around the Lancaster area. Were you the guy at the Lancaster Old Car show with the 69 VS? If so I stopped and jawed with you fer a bit and give you my card. If not then we need to correct this as I've got a couple Victors plus a 77 T140V and always lookin fer someone to ride with.

Now back the the rear sprocket swap. I replaced the 49T with a 64T I had on the 67 and while I was at it I put the 67s 4.00 Metzler knobby on it and Whooooooooooweeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this puppy fine! Course I only got a top speed around 45 or so but is it ever fun to race across my field and up through the woods.

Now I gotta do somethin about the 3.25x19 K70 on some unknown rim as it just slids tryin to turn in the wet or even damp dirt. I might leave this gear on through the winter if I git a knobby on the front and maybe take the Victor deer huntin. I always wanted to do that

But in the long run I'd like more highway speed. I found a new lookin 52T layin around here and might slip it on as I'd like to be able to cruise the backroads fer some fishin and maybe wander on up over to the BSA rally in Toronto next spring. Anyone run a 52T? Thanks, Hillbilly

Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #401050
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No Hillbilly...wasn't me. But now that I'm thinkin clearer I believe I have run into you at the Toronto rallies. You gotta be one of the New Lex Comp Riders, right?
Saw your pm...pm-ed back.

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Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: HillbillyBarr] #401097
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nope but they've invited me down fer parties and stuff. Have been to Toronto in the past. Just never thought me showin up on a 69 441 Shootin Star would command a pressence around the hogs. I'm sure they wouldn't have minded as Joe asked me to drop on by.

You ride yer 69VS much? Mine had a major oil leak comin from the banjo bolt on the tank after my ride the other day. Still findin loose stuff. Thinkin about takin it out fer a bit to play in the wet. That 19" K70 in the front sucks big time tho. PM'd back Hillbilly

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Don't really know any of those NLCRs. Or if any are on this site. But they seem real friendly to me. I had the use of a 441 Shooter in college. Kinda small for the street but a lot of fun. If somebody doesn't appreciate it, let em try to start it!


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Re: 69 Victor rear sprocket [Re: No Name Man] #401129
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Once you know the drill those Shootin Stars and later Victors are easy to start. It's all in that there 12V battery. Course the first time they'd try givin it gas while kickin it would give'em a free trip over the handlebars! Big difference from my T140v!

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Yep that's what I'm talkin about...


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