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t120 luggage rack? #382301
07/04/11 5:45 am
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Hi,
I am interested in mounting some leather throw-over panniers on 67 t120 to do some touring. Any suggestions on rack/brackets that will help support these and keep from flailing into the wheel and not look to dodgy?

thanks

cliff

1967 bonneville t120
seattle wa


cliff

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67 Triumph Bonneville
67 Austin Mini Cooper S
67 Morris Mini 1/4 T van
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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #382314
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Good throwover bags rest on the pillion part of the seat and sides of the bags rest against shock absorbers so no chance of fouling the wheel.

Craven made excellent racks and hard bags back in the day, I have a Craven rack [gloat].


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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: Tiger] #382505
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any chance you could post a pic of how the Craven rack mounts to get an idea how to fab one?

thanks


cliff

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67 Triumph Bonneville
67 Austin Mini Cooper S
67 Morris Mini 1/4 T van
Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #382506
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I was also hoping to mount bags a ways back so can also ride 2 up.


cliff

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67 Triumph Bonneville
67 Austin Mini Cooper S
67 Morris Mini 1/4 T van
Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #382515
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Cliff
You can still pick up Craven racks and panniers on eBay.
They are not expensive, especially if you dont mind something showing its age a bit.

Steve


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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: steverat] #382559
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Originally Posted By: steverat
Cliff
You can still pick up Craven racks and panniers on eBay.


This is certainly true on eBay-UK as they are quite a bit cheaper than what is on eBay stateside, but the shipping costs to the USA are prohibitive!

Steve


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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #382975
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It's all right there in the TriCor catalog for 1967. But I'm not sure you can afford those prices!

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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: RF Whatley] #382987
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Hi had this made up to use Ventura racks and packs. Still needs a coat or two of paint.



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And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #383081
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Rask cycle has some one bolt universal saddlebag mounts that I've been looking at, they're only $55. I figure I could mount them on the top shock mount. I have some cheap soft bags that have that fabric panel on the back for the mount to slide in should be ideal.


'66 Bitsa Bonnie

Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #383102
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Originally Posted By: chume
any chance you could post a pic of how the Craven rack mounts to get an idea how to fab one?

thanks


The Craven rack itself mounts to the rear mudguard loop via four brackets which I fabricated, I did not get them with the rack.

I once had the panniers and diagonal brackets for those, the panniers were Craven "Comet" and made a slim little bike bike into a bulborous horrible thing so I sold the lower bits to a mate.

The diagonal pannier brackets were studied and whilst a work of Industrial Art I would never attempt to duplicate them.

When travelling I load bedding and other light stuff on the rack and heavier gear on the rear of the seat.

Maybe 15lbs of gear on the rack routinely, tools and spare tube, wet gear etc.

It all fits into an old laptop bag which I have disfigured so no thieving bastard will mistake it for a laptop.

There is a computer therein but that is a spare Trispark stator, unlikely that it could be readily exchanged for the substances which they crave.

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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: R Moulding] #383317
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Nice effort Redmoggy,

I wonder why you did not make the riser a bit higher. It seems to me it would support a good size bag that way. No doubt you had your reasons. RR


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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #383321
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Whilst not as nice as Redmoggy's effort, this ordinary photo of my old '64 T120 (an ex-police bike) had a frame attached to carry police saddle bags.

This simple but effectice design could easily be modified to make it a less obvious "attachment".

I expect to try this as a starter design for my T120, for use on long, multi-day rides. RR


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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #383420
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Thanks Rod

I have two racks that interchange, the second one has the larger riser. The small one doubles as a grab rail and gives the better half a place to strap her handbag!


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How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #385782
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Heres what I decided upon after finding out the universals I mentioned earlier puts the bags to far forward.

Bar is 3/8" and the flat strap across the back hoop is 3/4." All in all it took me a few hours, mostly because I suck at welding.











As you can see it only has three mounting points and is quite sturdy, I had my 5 year stand on them to test their "durability." I just wish I would have made them when I went to the IoM, this time its Bonneville, maybe taking her to her spiritual home will giv'er a bit more gusto. And if all goes awry I'll just drop in on ma and pa in Tooele.


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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: thebevman] #385815
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Yep, that's all that's required. Simple and effective. well made mate!! RR


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Re: t120 luggage rack? [Re: chume] #385827
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Hi Cliff,

Originally Posted By: chume
I was also hoping to mount bags a ways back so can also ride 2 up.

When you put throwover bags over the rear part of the seat, they aren't normally so long they cover the passenger's footrests, so the passenger sits on the seat as normal with his or her legs and feet in front of the bags.

Beware putting too much weight on a rear rack, it's both high up and a long way from the bike's centre-of-gravity so ime doesn't take much to start to upset the handling. frown

Hth.

Regards,


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