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A California TR150V #330642
08/30/10 4:16 am
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I believe this bike was torn down in 1981 with under 8,000 miles on it. It appears that the goal was a valve job, certainly one exhaust valve is chipped at the rocker contact point and the valve guide is shot.
When I got it the engine was frozen and penetrating oil tapping with wood, and rocking the rear wheel have it quite free now.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd310/cookr1/Triumph002.
I have been sorting parts today, made a valve holder from an old fence picket, and removed the valves with the old deep socket trick.
Let's try another way of posting the picture.




I had to grind down a wrench to get two barrel bolts free, I used a 13 mm to grind down as I have a lot of them, and a standard half inch Craftsman fit the rest.

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Re: A California TR150V [Re: Cookie] #330840
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A little information for me, I'm sure you've seen this.

http://www.sump-publishing.co.uk/t150%20trident.htm

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Everybody knows Ozzies do tastier barbecues than we Yanks.




The guides are in and now I have to make or find a reamer.


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Hmm there is that bloody claw hammer again mate !!! That's scary !!

Looks like you are having fun at very least !!


ABSTINENCE;" He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bike. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me. "
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In the 80s I worked my way up in a freight firm, drove a Mercedes and took it to a mechanic. I was so sick of mechanical stuff I gave away all my tools. At the time I gave the stuff up I had a six car garage in SF, 3 TR3s, and two 140 Jags and one 120 Roadster.
Now I am no longer engaged in working my way up and am just trying to maintain a middle management job until retirement. All those hours I spent worrying about work I spend in the garage.
Several years later I started puttering again and wish I had them all back. The stuff I have now has been slowly accumulated and is nowhere near my original gear. I have two ball peens now, a big one and little one and all medium stuff gets done with claw hammers.
I miss the drill press most!

Re: A California TR150V [Re: Cookie] #332107
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Richard ~ I know what you mean about tools.. I sold my electrical business some years back when i realized it was just a mug's game ~ "Be in your business!" yeah right!

I did a walk in , walk out basis ~ and surrendered most of my tools. The one single tool I missed a 12" swivel head ratchet bar with 1/2" socket attachment. Never seen one since.

I bought a drill press about 12 months back .. a China special ~ $88 AUD. cheap but it works fine ~ an excellent investment there ~

I would like a small lathe but alas .. not eventuated ~

Also I bought a single cylinder compressor with 20 litre tank, $70 AUD.

Too small so I was determined to blow it up and buy a twin cylinder , so I worked the guts out of the thing.. EVEN BURNT the paint off the cylinder, it got so hot.. but guess what ? .. Yep it is STILL going ~


ABSTINENCE;" He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bike. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me. "
Re: A California TR150V [Re: Stuart SS] #332255
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I'm at the point where I have to consider a bit on power tools, I won't be here much longer and Kiwi uses a few more volts. I also have a cheap Chinese air compressor that barely does the job. You have to let it build up after a burst but it will fill tires and run some air tools, can't cope with a sander at all.
I used that thing for an air nail gun to build the other side of the garage, and as you say it won't quit after five years or so of abuse.

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So far I'm not doing well on finding a reamer, I've been to four places that don't have anything to fit a Triumph.
Tonight is the antique bike club meeting here so somebody there might have one.

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Dropped my head off with north West, the historian and volunteer director over at the Hiller Aviation Museum. He is going to go though his reamer collection for me. I know he would have anything Indian but for this size I'll have to get lucky.

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Today I checked and measured the pistons and bore. It appears to be standard and a small amount of water got in to number 3. The two pistons I have cleaned up so far are both usable and both had a stuck number 2 ring. I think the bore will hone up easily and the water damage is way down on the bore, the piston must have been down and the small amount of damage is in the skirt area. Hopefully I'm not wrong but I'll see for sure after I hone it.
It might have freed those rings but at this point I'm glad I tore it down.

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A bit more attention today, I'm off on a trip tomorrow and wanted to do a couple of tasks.
Here is how I like to arrange bits, the lifters are a push fit in the board and the outside nuts and washers screwed down. I have what the bike is, the serial number, and where the head and one valve are. You never know who might be finishing your bike...

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I use a very similar system to make sure the cam followers go back in the same place they came from. Do you post on triples on line as cookiecook? I had to laugh when I saw that because my last name is Cook and my close friends call me Cookie


When given the choice between two evils I picked the one I haven't tried before
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Richard

FYI ~ I was talking to Garry W this morning (on our group list & builder of my trident bottom end) and he was saying that he is rebuilding a Rocket three and the new pistons from a well renowned UK trader had 3 thou play in the wrist pins ~

He rang Steve R and Steve reckoned that was the traders way . Garry said !! ~ "BS" Three thou is too much !!

So Garry has since over come the issue but as a triple builder professionally he was not a bit happy about that sort of
play ~

Intriguingly I didn't have pistons with my donkey when I started and took a punt on a set of second hand pistons from a well established eBay trader ~

So I scored a low mileage set of pistons for around $89 USD which were well in tolerance despite being second hand ~

Shows you can wake a broom some days, as opposed to just a feather duster !! lol


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Re: A California TR150V [Re: Cookie] #334622
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Cool, Stuart!

And yes thats me on Triples on Line, me old buddy Stuart clued me to it. I've been off in the wilds of Canada for a bit so I have to catch up. You must have been the guy who took my childhood nickname first!
When I was a kid I went to several colleges and luckily not jail. I never would tell anybody my nickname and with a name like Cook you were cookie in days.

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The far thinking engineers at Triumph cleverly designed the triple head to fit easily in a saddlebag for transport. My friend North not only found a reamer but reamed the guides to size and vapor blasted the head for me!

Tonight's goal was to clean the remaining valves with the aid of my tiny brass wire brush on my high tech 1/4 inch drill.

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Hello All, Hey All I Am Rebel, I Own Sierra Cycle Salvage, And Am A Huge Goldwing Wing Guy, Cookie Was An Inspiration To Me And To A Lot Of People He Was In Contact With. Since His Passing I Have Taken Possession Of All His Bikes On Consignment. I Am Here To Learn All I Can About His Bikes So That I Can Sell Them For His Widow Christine

She And I Could Not Find Any Papers On The Triump And The Vin sticker On The Frame Is Useless

Dose Any One Know What Year This Triump Is?

Thank You All For Your Help

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Hi,

frown That's very sad news about Cookie, please pass on my condolences to Christine.

Originally Posted By: Rebel
Vin sticker On The Frame Is Useless
Dose Any One Know What Year This Triump Is?

What you'd call the VIN also should be on the engine - on the drive-side crankcase on a raised 'pad' just under the block - and on the frame - drive-side of the headstock casting on the line of the front frame downtube. There should be a five-figure number with two letters to the left of it, and the model code ('T150V') either to the left of the two letters or to the right of the five figures. Ideally what's on the engine should be the same as what's on the frame.

The colours on the tank - what Triumph called Regal Purple and White - suggest a '72-season bike; if the second of the two letters in the VIN is 'G', that'd confirm the season. Then Triumph started to fit the 5-speed transmission - indicated by the 'V' in 'T150V' - as standard from mid-March 1972; if the first of the two letters in the VIN is 'C' or later, that'd confirm.

Hth; if we can be of any more help, just ask.

Regards,

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Sad to hear of the passing of Cookie, my condolences to the the family and friends of this forum member.

Concerning the year of the Triumph, it looks to me like 1971/2.
the engine nr will tell it all:
The first letter indicates the month of manufacture:

A for Januari
B Feruari
C march
D april
E may
G june
H july
J aug.
K sept.
N october
P november
X december

The second letter indicates the year of manufacture:
C for 1969
D 1970
E 1971
G 1972
H 1973
J 1974
K 1975
N 1976
P 1977
X 1978
A 1979
B 1980

Hope this helps.


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1972 Trident T150T
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Cookie thought it was '72: http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthread...0142#Post330142




Originally Posted By: Stuart
Then Triumph started to fit the 5-speed transmission - indicated by the 'V' in 'T150V' - as standard from mid-March 1972; if the first of the two letters in the VIN is 'C' or later, that'd confirm.


Unfortunately, Stuart has ommitted the fact that it's only 'later' with regard to the month date code prefix letters: D,E,G, and maybe H*?. (DG-HG) as the Triumph 1972 production year did not commence in January and end in December.

Originally Posted By: Peter R
The second letter indicates the year of manufacture:


It indicates the production year, so should not be confused with 'calendar' year.


Month code prefix letters (H*?)J,K,N,P,X (JG-XG) would mean it was a 1972 (G) production model-but it was manufactured during the latter part of the 1971 calendar year.

Example: Date code prefix 'XG' would signify a 1972(G) model, manufactured in December(X) 1971, and 'AG' would be manufactured January 1972.

*(H) 1972 production could have started as early as July(H) 71?
So HG could either be early or late 1972 production, or possibly both-with low and high HG prefix serial numbers?

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Hi Les,

Originally Posted By: L.A.B.
Originally Posted By: Stuart
if the first of the two letters in the VIN is 'C' or later, that'd confirm.

Unfortunately, Stuart has ommitted the fact that it's only 'later' with regard to the month date code prefix letters: D,E,G, and maybe H*?.

Nope, I omitted that for two good reasons:-

1. 'Rebel' is selling one specific Trident for the owner's widow; he didn't ask for, nor does he need, a masterclass on the intricacies of BSA/Triumph date coding.

2. While it is completely irrelevant to Rebel's question, as has been discussed over on TOL a few times, confirmed by Steve Rothera and written up by him in 'Triple Echo', the '72 season for T150's continued 'til calendar October 1972 (with almost identical '73-season Series 1 bikes built from calendar December 1972).

So how is the detail in Peter's and your posts relevant to Rebel's question?

More to the point, we don't know what's stamped on that bike's engine and frame; afaict, Cookie never published it.

So I suggest our wisest course now - before we look even more collectively stupid - is we all belt up and let 'Rebel' respond, assuming we haven't given him a terminal headache.

Regards,

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Originally Posted By: Stuart
1. 'Rebel' is selling one specific Trident for the owner's widow; he didn't ask for, nor does he need, a masterclass on the intricacies of BSA/Triumph date coding.



However, you appeared quite happy to provide certain unnecessary information yourself-and confuse the issue. By omitting (knowingly or otherwise) certain relevant details, your comment about "C or later" could mislead somebody not particularly well versed in the intricacies of BSA/Triumph date codes to completely misinterpret the date code information.

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Rebel, if you haven't left the building with a major headache... can you elaborate on what you mean by VIN sticker? Is it the blue sticker issued by CHP/DMV here in Ca.? If so, that usually happens in the case of a mis-matched frame and engine number, and as you say has no relevance to the bike's actual numbers. Could very well be different year engine and frame. If possible, post both numbers here, and maybe you can get an exact answer. Often there will be a DMV sticker placed over the engine numbers, but it is adhesive-backed, just peel off to see the numbers, and glue back on.

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Ok Ok Calm Down, The sticker Was Like One From A Honda, On The Right Of The Neck, The Frame Is Stamped On The Left, And I Did Not Look At The Motor, So Heres The Frame... T150VGG02996 Per What I Have Read That Makes This A 72. Thank You All... Now To Get A Title So I Can Sell It Without Parting It...

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I am not sure I should even go here ~ but Cookie and I established a 'web friendship ' some time back..

It is a great deal of melancholy I feel I should tell you blokes, Richard passed away several months ago after he found he had the Big C ~

Small blessing that it took him quickly ~ despite his being optimistic he would make it to NZ ~

Totally smashed me as we planned on getting together when he and his wife moved to NZ where his good lady hailed from!!


ABSTINENCE;" He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bike. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me. "


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