Thanks for all the continued help! Sorry for hogging the forum with all my questions I finally got my new kick start spring in the mail, but the old one was completely broken and out of place when I opened the case up. I figured I could figure how to place the spring, but no luck. Can anyone shed some light, or have picture of how they look installed? Couldnt find any directions in the workshop, haynes, or parts manual. Thanks!!!
I just happen to have one of these staring at me from the shelf . I cant post pics from the lil' notebook thingie I am on but i will describe .basically you have to install the spring and the retaining plate .You need to remove your retainer and install the spring with the flat hook attached to the slothead post leaving the other hook standing up. the retainer has that hook that slots into the spring hook. Here's the part that really really sucks, all ya gotta do is wind the spring to put tension on it , fit it on the lever shaft without the spring jumping off .this is where a heavy glove will save you some skin on the palm of your hand .what i like to do is install this with the inner timing cover removed , then I weld the retainer to the shaft with a tack and grind the excess then I simply wind the thing up before I install the cover .
Kelvin is right you dont have the right spring (going by the photo in your link) The spring Bob shows is the right one,
It is a pig of an act but sometimes it goes ok....other times ...well ya know.
It hooks over peg 2 in your pic.
The only real helpfull comment i can come up with , other than wear leather gloves, is to bind the coils together in 3 places with some light steel wire (1.6 or so) and twist the wire up tight. Just go round the coils once and then twist off or it will be hard to get the wire off after.
Doing that stops the coils flapping about all over the place while you are struggling to get the tensioned keeper plate over its slot.....if you can get a freind with a hammer and a peice of steel tube have him stand by to give the keeper plate a thump (tap realy) when you are struggling and swearing and almost have it on....when you have it on get the outer cover on real fast and resist the temptation to try the kick start just to see it working. (dont forget to remove the temp wires)....try it without wiring it 1st if you want but just remeber about it after 2 hours if it doesnt go well.
I just hold the tang on the retainer with some vice grips ....rough as **** but a mans gota do what a mans gota do.
"There's the way it ought to be and there's the way it is" (Sgt Barnes)
I've had similar results, I prefer to set the tab inward ,makes sense to me , ut I have taken the cover off and found several of them working fine with the tab outward . I didn't disturb them if it wasn't necessary.
Similar to Bob....Hose clamp to stop the spring flying off, hook it around the screw on the timing cover first and then I use a puller that the motorcross guys use to fit exhaust springs and just pull it round and hook it onto the tang on the washer...dead easy.
Thanks! I have a good idea how to get the spring in, now if the thing will only come in the mail.. I lost the rubber on my kickstart, and the other day it was raining and when I kicked the kick starter, my foot slid of and I banged my leg pritty good! This picture does not do it justice at all, ouch!
My $.02: I've replaced my kickstart spring a number of times over the years, and tried various methods and tools, at last arriving on what I found to be the simplest and quickest method, employing only a pair of heavy suede welding gloves.
That's right; don the gloves, hook the spring, grab the plate, twist and push. The sharp end of the spring will not penetrate the gloves.
Thick friggin gloves, LOL! that washer is how I get those on. I grab the extended bent spring tab with 7R's and pray I get the flats right 1st try. In 2 weeks or so there will be an A65 here for this whole ordeal after being ridden since I last saw it and bodged it a bit which has lasted. S -That spring of Bob's would be happier in my b44 I think. Maybe you can grind back the tail to get a good seat. Not seen the end loop bend only break.
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Re: How do I get this kickstart spring in?
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djg42. I suffered the same thing trying to start the T100 gently in front of the folks house at 5 or so on a wet morning. Went to three doctors and they told me it wasn't a big deal. Six days after doing it I went to a clinic, was sent directly to the hospital and got it looked after. I had broken a blood vessel in the leg and apparently much more delay could have meant losing the leg. Being a diabetic, I was put on intravenis antibiotics for a week and was eventually ok. If it's not clearing up make sure it gets looked after. Cheers, Wilf.