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Value of used Dunlops made in England? #370744
04/29/11 3:25 pm
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Is there any collector value to used K70's that are original made in England? I have a set and I hate to throw them out and then find someone would have wanted them.
They are most likely the original tires the RE factory mounted on the Interceptor.


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #370745
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Sure, as long as they have good tread. Even if the sidewalls are cracked. Static displays, or bikes being judged on originality would use these, no points for Cheng Shins.

Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Steve Erickson] #370781
04/29/11 5:26 pm
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Thanks for answering my next question, Steve. The sidewalls are cracked some. The rear tread is a bit worn in the center. Front is better but has minor cupping. Even the tubes, rim locks and probably the rim strips are original. I put 100 miles on them while debugging the bike last fall. Al.


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #370787
04/29/11 5:53 pm
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No points for Chen Shins? That seems unfair.


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #370824
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For static displays perhaps, but no value.

A company called vintage tyres in UK have teamed up with the VMCC and offers tyres of the correct sizes and tread pattern for most classic and vintage bikes, so there is no shortage of the right stuff.

There are serious safety issues with tyres over six yesrs old and a number of fatalities implicating old tyres. It's not just the cracks but the performance of the rubber. You surely do not want to contribute to the statistics, even unwittingly. My advice would be to have them disposed of properly, no matter how "wasteful" it seems.


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: t120mike] #370826
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Are these tires/tyres stamped the same as Made in England Dunlops? If not, if not totally indistinguishable from originals, then it would still be points off... even Japanese or Indian Dunlops are counted off, though the treads, manufacturer, etc. are correct. Not my rules, but that's the way it is played. However, if the bike is ridden in to a show, the points for it being a rider may offset the points taken off for a Jap Dunlop, depending on the judges.

In answer to your original question Al, your tires being worn and cupped probably aren't of any value to speak of. Put them on eBay, if you get two dollars, that's the value. If you get $50, let me know, because I have a pile of them!

Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #371093
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Steve, Why not call Vintage Tyres on 0044 1590 612261? Their vintage car dunlops are made in the original place but don't know about their bike dunlops

Re Concours d'elegance, IMO bikes which are not roadworthy should be disqualified (that includes those with unroadwothy tyres), as should any bike incapable of being powered up and ridden. I'm not suggesting that they should be ridden through a muddy field en route to the event, but when I'm king of the universe, concours bikes will be put on a dyno!


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #371094
05/02/11 12:13 am
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I traded the rear tire for 4 '69-'70 cycle mags at our swap meet yesterday. Its going back into service....on a home made garden cart! This was our fourth swap meet and the first one I would call successful. A lot of parts traded hands, and a few of us got to take a dollar or two home. I'll post some photos soon. Al.


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #371164
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Black shoe polish in the cracks, and you have a "like new" tyre, a la Burt Munroe...


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #371188
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But do the tires contain 'Original Correct OEM Air' from England?


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: dave - NV] #371201
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I agree, I'd scrap them if they're cracked up, U.V light decomposses rubber. I took some inner tubes out of some original 1930's wheels from a barn find, tyres were worn smooth like they did in the old days but still pumped up ! The tubes looked like new, made of red rubber that were real heavy and felt like they were 1/4" thick. I hung em up in my workshop and within a year they looked shredded, like spagetti.
But, I know there's a lot of talk about dodgy old tyres and I'm not sure whether its fabricated by tyre manufacturers after extra bucks or crazed health n safty 'experts'.They even started to say no more than one plug in modern tyres. An old boy mate gave me an old Dunlop tyre that'd been in his loft for decades, a tread pattern I'd never seen before, it looked like new and had been kept in the dark. . I put it on my Norton Big 4,did a lap of Spain and wore it out with no signs of deteration.
As for concours judging, I'm Judge at the International West Kent run, possibly the 4th largest vintage bike event in the UK and I wouldn't dream of checking tyres ! Infact I'm looking for well used/fettled original looking ridden machines.


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #371227
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Not even my 19" TT's on the R3 have oem air but I think I could send them back to UK to be pumped up. Both may have been period replacements but no checking on front and only a little on rear. Anyone want them for $200. each for that static display resto? :o)
I could buy new cheng chins then or even Bridgestones maybe. I would like to see the stats that old tires are a major accident cause. The Pirrelli Phantoms on the '89 RZ are more sticky than the 5 year old Avon I have which is checking already. Real rubber tires without "filler" are much more reliable if treated well.
imo.
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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: 441/R3cafeSteve] #371332
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When my tires wear out, I get another old bike with good tires. That's how I ended up with this collection!


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Re: Value of used Dunlops made in England? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #371482
05/04/11 6:14 am
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Tire manufacturers trying to keep up with the margins of the Jones's in the late 80's and early nineties while china tooled up and Japan put out some quality tires as well as Germany and Italy. As the chinese worked their magic of long term planning I think the western copies forced the western Co. to throw in the towel and ship out the manufacturing to a larger extent. When this happened I notice the fact that tires after '91 would check and deteriorate faster than the old gold seals and pirrelli's and even IRC and Swallow brand. Chen shin's phantom copies were an excellent off track tire imo. So with tire manufacturers seeing that 70% of bikes get used 1 month a year (30) days say the resale and re treading of the world's bikes was not generating enough sales and it would and did get costly re tooling just for a fancier branded tread pattern. So comprimise the tire by using life limited racing compounds like ME33 laser's and others as well as the so called "economy" tire designs so that after 4-5 years wear would be evident all on it's own and it would only make the non-riding owners feel half way eligible to own that 986 or Paul Smart replica they never got out of second. LOL!
That's my take, business integrity is a rare thing these days and so many have sold out quality for profit they put riders at risk imo. Also they have destroyed the industries that produce and pay those motorcycle guys that they hope can afford their re-branded exported labor tires.
Steve

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