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'73 commando 850 road test #358385
02/15/11 4:33 pm
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From Oct, '73 Motorcycle World, reports that the new 850 Commando, totally stock with a 21T sprocket, did the 1/4 in 12.75 and that it would "pull all the way to an indicated 125." I'd like to believe that test but it sounds impossible to me.

It seems to me that 21T is too tall for a 12.75 1/4 mile and too short for 125MPH. But I think from now on those are the specs I'll use for my '73 850! smile

Here's the test: http://www.classicbike.biz/Norton/Mags/1970s/1973NortonMC-World.pdf

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Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: MexicoMike] #358403
02/15/11 6:31 pm
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Mike if it suits your ego thats great, but I thought you might enjoy these comparisons to bring that top speed down a tad. 1/4 mile time might be do-able also with a hundred pound rider. grin Anyways, thoroughly enjoyed the road test. :bigt

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left to right 73 Dunstall 850, 72 750 Roadster, 71 750 Fastback

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Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: Skeet] #358461
02/15/11 10:53 pm
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Interesting - those tests are in line with the actual capabilities of the bike - RPM/gear ratio. The one I posted makes no mechanical sense...

Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: MexicoMike] #358468
02/16/11 12:09 am
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Here's a couple more for you. Your 73 is on the right. Unlike Cycle World it looks like the Cycle Guide crew were chicken to try out the topend. grin Also, check out the sprockets. I had always heard the 750's were quicker. Could this be where that nasty rumor came from? crazy

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Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: MexicoMike] #358497
02/16/11 4:00 am
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That looks like the Combat spec on the left. Note the compression ratio and quoted horsepower.


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Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: MexicoMike] #358535
02/16/11 3:22 pm
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Good catch HH. Here's 3 more and I'm done. Now you can all form your opinions. The only thing I know from all this is the Nortons weren't slouches.

Another Cycle Guide 2 months earlier. Looks like they took a peak at the speedometer this time
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1972 Super Bike magazine At least they weren't chicken on the high end.
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And finally just for fun here's Cycles 73 Superbike comparison to show the competition. No top runs for these guys either. Cowards!
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Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: Skeet] #358630
02/16/11 11:23 pm
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Makes you realise just how fast the factory tuned 850 Mk1 Roadster that Dave Rawlins was campaigning in 1973 was -
- 1/4 mile @ 12.1 sec @ 114mph

The Stage 1 and Stage 2 tuning sheets that the factory put out detailed all the changes in his bike.
Since these wouldn't meet noise testing requirements, could not be sold as a factory model...


Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: MexicoMike] #359767
02/24/11 3:08 am
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does that mean i can turn my 73 850 commando into a 12.1 sec quarter mile burner?


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Re: '73 commando 850 road test [Re: MexicoMike] #359888
02/24/11 7:54 pm
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Probably.
When I first picked up my Commando, it was kitted for BOTT racing and had the stage one hop up. It sure was faster than it is now that it has been returned to stock. I raced a very fast Corvette on the street and when I shut off a about 100mph we were dead even. I'm pretty sure I could get in the low 12's with the way it was back then. Launching was the first obstacle. Nuts on the tank and hope you don't loop it.
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