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Vintage Frame of Mind #357602
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So tonight I am out at the Rodeo Bar seeing a Rockabilly band with a friend ... (Richie) He's buying so all is good.... Well he has a friend with him and that guy comments on my Triumph shirt so we start talking... Turn out he is looking to buy a Triumph Tiger.... We go through about half an hour of conversation and we even start talking about riding to New Orleans when he gets his bike.... And having Richie follow us in a chase truck.... All is good and the beer is flowing and for some reason I start asking about this bike he is looking to buy.... What year? That kinda stuff.... WELL ! Me being a vintage everything kinda guy , it never dawned on me that he was talking about a new Triumph that doesnt need a chase truck or tools or anything... That just proved to me that I have a one tract mind (and I like it) But truth be told he said he'll email me when he starts planning the trip and if it works out we'll do it like we talked about.... so all is right with the world after all.. I think confused


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357603
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They're making new Triumphs?


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: hh] #357605
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Originally Posted By: hh
They're making new Triumphs?


Yes they are and just about 50 miles south of where I am sitting
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/

But this may be of more interest especially to Wade, Tom, Greenspringfarm and other Triumph afficionados
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ABelgFdjA&feature=related
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipiD6nm7Iy0&playnext=1&list=PL1399C4C61EF7E7BD
part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahAoNvH2pQ&playnext=1&list=PL1399C4C61EF7E7BD

Enjoy bigt


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Originally Posted By: wadeschields
...it never dawned on me that he was talking about a new Triumph that doesnt need a chase truck or tools or anything...


Don't tell that to Shaun! laugh

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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357652
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Good one Bryan ... I have to admit I got sidetracked by the BSA factory films before finishing the Triumphs but I did come back to them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywCan3EcdNc&feature=related is another one . Why did they run them in initially without firing them up..... What the advantage to that procedure?


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in a vintage frame of mind...
too funny Wade. you should STILL do the ride to New Orleans...
from here to Nashville the back way thru West Virginia and pick up the Natchez Trace parkway down to Natchez Ms...

from there you can ride the levee roads downriver to the Big Easy- the *views* consist of sugar cane, chemical refineries, chicken shacks and slums, and Ante-Bellum mansions! crazy sick


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357657
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Here's what I thought you were talking about. Older even that another vintage frame I seem to recall. Modern Triumph Harumph! Oh! Wait! I own one too. grin



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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357769
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How many employees does Triumph UK ops have? my guess would be 300-500 full time? engineering grads etc. frame welding and casting cases?
I'd like to dispell they are only assembling and importing parts from Thailand once and for all.
Steve
OK UPDATE: Hope more than 800 brit factory workers are employed there! :o( I'll take a T120R over any new Bonneville thanks. HH? Even the BSA chopper guys can cast alloy here, here is a Triumph I think Is it real? fetching more than a used sprint 600. Mr Bloor should manufacture bikes in UK. Laser cutting is low cost no matter what country so why not Britain. Motorcycle politics are fair game, this shocks me fully as a life long motorcyclist. Thailand should make Thai bikes, UK should make UK manufactured bikes not imports. Is BMW this extreme?
This is for the guys that outsourced Triumph LOL! clap Someone muted the audio now, can't take a joke. They don't call Ipod's American made, maybe invented but not made. If it was not a trick would there not be a UK/Thai manufacturing lable? people assume lucky for "Triumph" today. Crass, I could understand Tina scooters from Thailand maybe.

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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357790
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George,

That is a VERY handsome shed in the background!

If they had a calendar called 'Vintage Sheds' (think about how popular that 'Outhouse' calendar was/is), you'd be on there for sure! smile

Steve


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357831
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It looks quite different now that it's painted.
The side entrance to my little workshop.


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357927
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George, nice shop, any pictures of the inside?

Wade, I didn't even think about Hinkley when you started out with "Triumph Tiger". I'm piecing together a Tiger (1960 Tiger that is) so that's where my mind went.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Hinkley Bonneville.


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357962
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Hey Wade let me get this right...

you rode around the UK and IoM, on an old BSA A65, with no back up truck.
You rode from the UK into europe for a week and back to the UK on a borrowed old BSA A65, with no back up truck.
And you intend to ride two up on an old BSA M series from the UK into europe around Germany and back with no back up truck.

So why do you need a back up truck when popping down to new Orleans? don't you think your BSA will make it. am shocked Wade, shocked I tells ya, wait till Graham sees this he will be ripping the pee bud grin


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #357966
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Originally Posted By: George Elston
The side entrance to my little workshop.




George please answer me a question that's vexed me since the very first time we crossed the water.
The five pointed star on the door, I've seen them all over PA & maybe some adjacent states, what is the significance what is it for why is it there. I've seen it on barns, on houses on garages and ask as I might I've never had a proper answer. help

Kevin, happen we're a bit hasty with Wade? After all Wade is a world traveller a man after our own heart, he just goes & does things.
As I read it the chase vehicle has two functions first it is for Richies buddy and second by driving it Richie gets to go along for the ride and the important thing in his life -beer bigt

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Here are a couple pictures from 2 or 3 years ago. As you can see only one bay is insulated. And yes it's usually this messy.





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Not sure I can give a definitive answer. To me thet just represent a star from our flag. In reality I guess they are just around because someone started making them and they became popular. There is a larger red white and blue one that I painted on the back of the barn.


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It's Ok Bryan just winding the old boy up a bit bigt


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Re: Vintage Frame of Mind [Re: wadeschields] #358052
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Bryan you hit the nail on the head.... Basically Richie was standing there when we were talking about the plan to go . So to include him in the conversation the chase truck idea seemed to do the trick since he is not into bikes....

The Stars ? There are REALLY good star salesmen in PA.... bigt

George that looks like a fine workshop... I will be looking forward to having a beer in there one day soon.... without a chase truck! shocked


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Originally Posted By: George Elston

Bryan
Not sure I can give a definitive answer. To me thet just represent a star from our flag. In reality I guess they are just around because someone started making them and they became popular. There is a larger red white and blue one that I painted on the back of the barn.


George I think I found the 5 pointed star bigt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Rs6YEZAt8

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Originally Posted By: beezabryan1


George please answer me a question that's vexed me since the very first time we crossed the water.
The five pointed star on the door, I've seen them all over PA & maybe some adjacent states, what is the significance what is it for why is it there. I've seen it on barns, on houses on garages and ask as I might I've never had a proper answer. help



Bryan, those are "Hex Marks", anything you see that's a five-or-six-pointed symbol has its origins in "the old days" when superstitious people would put up an "anti-witch" mark on their barn or house, to keep fire and pest away.

You see them centered around the Pennsylvania Dutch country and for about 150 miles in every direction, then you don't see them anymore.

Most people today don't know what they're for - they're just decoration to break up the monotony!

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Don't let Shaun see that pale fizzy shi!te. Don't believe I've ever had a Sapporo. Cool commercial though. As long as they don't use a red white and blue star.


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Originally Posted By: beezabryan1


George I think I found the 5 pointed star bigt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Rs6YEZAt8

pint beerchug


YEAH! Bryan, that is cool. (and Sapporo is palatable beer)

i think the *modern* Star thing is simply a nostalgia thing, but once was structural and important. these big stars are a spin-off.

if you look at some brick mostly- or stone sometimes- houses (local to the USA) from the 1800s or even older, there sometimes are evidences of internal support *rods*(?) with either an *S* shaped external piece, or sometimes a *star* -shaped external piece. my guess is that the supports (i only imagine they are rods from what i have seen on the outside) be they S or star shaped, spread the stress out across the brick or stone, and act as a decorative but decidedly structural *washer*. (brick is/was more often a *veneer* applied outside a frame, and Stone was more often actually structural.... today you use small devices nailed to the frame to secure the brick *veneer* to the structure, these flat metal devices are then *woven* into the laid up brick- eliminating the need for externally visible devices.

you usually see these *S*'s or Stars between what would be the first and second floor, and sometimes above the second floor, below what might be the attic floor- in other words, among floor/ceiling joists. i would suppose these rods are intended to both disburse the strain of gravitational pulls and thus also the spread which might result from such a strain over decades or centuries of life on earth. most likely their primary use is to keep the stone or brick walls from buckling. thinking about it some more, probably you'd see them almost always on brick and not so much on stone for aforementioned reasons....

today's decorative stars may harken unto that once structural/architectural tactic/device... thus at once both feeding and satisfying the human need for the reverence of the [imagined] *good old days*. not to mention lining the pockets of some sales/marketing genius who decided to assail folks' subconsciouses and take blatant advantage of our sheer humanity...



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Originally Posted By: ricochetrider
Originally Posted By: beezabryan1


George I think I found the 5 pointed star bigt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Rs6YEZAt8

pint beerchug


YEAH! Bryan, that is cool. (and Sapporo is palatable beer)

......

you usually see these *S*'s or Stars between what would be the first and second floor, and sometimes above the second floor, below what might be the attic floor- in other words, among floor/ceiling joists. i would suppose these rods are intended to both disburse the strain of gravitational pulls and thus also the spread which might result from such a strain over decades or centuries of life on earth. most likely their primary use is to keep the stone or brick walls from buckling. thinking about it some more, probably you'd see them almost always on brick and not so much on stone for aforementioned reasons....

today's decorative stars may harken unto that once structural/architectural tactic/device... thus at once both feeding and satisfying the human need for the reverence of the [imagined] *good old days*.




Like I said a good Star salesman at work... And Tom I think you found your next career... That was beautiful cry

As far as Sapporo . Pretty good beer yes... Kirin Itchiban is my favorite Japanese beers though..... Up there with my favorite all time beers in fact


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Did you know that Kirin Ichiban is brewed in the US by Anheuser Busch for the US market? This would've been easily accommodated since it has a high proportion of adjuncts just like typical North American megabrews.


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Are you serious ? So why is it so hard to find....? And more importantly - why does it taste so good confused


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I'm surprised that it's hard to find. They are well versed in marketing. They claim it's made with their unique "first press" brewing process. Maybe something was lost in translation, but there's no "pressing" process in making beer; wine yes, beer no. I think they're trying to say that they don't reuse the mash once it's been sparged the first time, but then, nor does any other brewery that I'm aware of. It's the same with "cold filtering." No brewery would filter hot.

I viewed the presentation on their website where they admit it's made with corn and rice as well as barley malt, but they mysteriously completely miss what is arguably the most important part of the brewing process, the boiling of the wort.

But if you like it, maybe it's best not to ask too many questions, kind of like how sausage is made.


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Originally Posted By: hh
Did you know that Kirin Ichiban is brewed in the US by Anheuser Busch for the US market? This would've been easily accommodated since it has a high proportion of adjuncts just like typical North American megabrews.


Way back in time and another faraway place I would occasionally have a beer at a neatby USAF base. One evening a C130 landed with a cargo that included a supply of beer.
I will never forget the name because next day I had the most savage head.
Bloody Kirin that's what it was, I never want to see the shyte again frown


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