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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: btour] #312082
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Hi. I have worked the floor of a factory up here (run by a northern liberal btw...) and it was more of a management v. worker thing than worker v. worker - but I know what your talking about (day shift is lazy, only our shift does a dang thing). I did not understand the decisiveness then and now that I run a plant (of sorts) I try not to have people at each others throats.

Sorry for the history thing - like I said its a bit of a misdirected sore spot, especially living up here and seeing what my oldest daughter is being taught (which I could direct towards northern libs, but who knows??)

Anyway, have a great day before it gets could again this weekend!


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Jack Adams] #312910
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Originally Posted By: Jack Adams
Wow Bob, where the hell did that all come from? Jack


Just stumbled across this Jack and I surely would like to know also.

In any case one interpretation of what I posted did stimulate some lucid conversation.


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Tiger] #312921
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Bob's clutch is working again, hope that helps grin

Yeah, the topic stopped being fun, if it ever was...like Louis Armstrong used to say:
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Ya gotta leave it all behind ya!
grin

(google Swiss Kriss..about halfway down the Washington Post blurb pretty much covers it...except we need to add the story where he used to hand them out to everyone he saw...wrapped in shiny paper they looked like candy, and when he met the Queen (wake up you lot over there, we're talking about yer Ma!) he gave her several and, liking chocolate apparently, she bunged a couple down before her handlers rescued her.)

Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Bodger] #312924
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We Loyalists [even if only because we hate socialists] know nothing of this "Swiss Kriss" thing.

I am sure HM would have handed the goods off to MI5 and the good musician would shortly thereafter be at best be on his way back to Africa.

Possibly a "wet job" during the journey, aeroplanes do crash you know.

I have no doubt that your journalists are at least as well regarded for probity as those in Australia ?

Were one afire I would have to plead that I had just before urinated and therefore helpless to extinguish the unfortunate.

[I wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire]

Did you fix Bob's clutch ?


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Geoff] #312926
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I tried to PM you Geoff but failed, here it is.

I thought you spoke well in the hornets nest that I unintentionally stirred up.

BTour is a flake but you are not and I shall say so on the forum, good luck with managing folks, cherish the good ones and cut any troublemaker out quick, their discontent is natural to them but will infect others.

Many will display family photos and such at their workplace, this is to make you feel bad and therefore shield them, most dishonourable conduct and should be judged as such.

Hard won lesson that.

With the worst of them I have spent considerable time and had much enjoyment drafting their letters of dismissal, those being the ones who betrayed their workmates.

Exit interviews for these folk were most amusing also, my twin brother and I once existed on one loaf of bread for a week and these people wail and moan at being given 4 weeks pay for free !

In the past I have been laid off, the feling was akin to later when my TR6 threw a 'rod and trashed everything but the head and primary and gearbox internals, I was a Britbike newby and shattered.

I had a few beers and a couple of days later I was rebuilding.

Apologies for dragging this further off topic and this is certainly not condemnation of good folk who lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

In my experience the most vulnerable to redundancy are those who are content, you have to keep learning 'cause the bloody Chinese have heaps of folks who can screw part A to Part B on an auto assembly line, robots have you f#@k#d also.

An old Engineer once told me "You gotta have a racket", his was an intricate knowledge of Industrial Steam and he taught me much.

Manufacturing is going to China but the gear that they make has to be maintained and you blokes who know a taper and a keyway are becoming a rarity.

My best fitter is only 5 yrs younger than myself and nobody of his calibre coming up.

Neither of us went beyond 16 yrs old at formal school, that environment did not suit.

Anyone who has a Son/Daughter should get him/her reading books of all sorts at a very young age and interest him/her in tin/lead/antimony bearings and such, there will be plenty of Graduate Engineers who know no such things.

More books are better as Children learn to spell correctly from reading and also gather grammar, IME most school teachers are self absorbed dickheads who will have your Child chanting Liberal bullshit rather than what teaching them how to spell.

I surely hope BT is not a bloody school teacher, guess I'm f6cked if he is.

Cheers Tiger

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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Tiger] #312942
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Originally Posted By: Tiger
BTour is a flake
Cheers Tiger


laughing There don't you feel better now? This is certainly the place to say such things as you feel. The Triumph Forum is not.

And as you wondering why this thread, that is why. Tiger, you have been taking pop shots, from cover, over there for quite some time. Not just at me, but others too. Calling us parrots, etc.

Some anger there, and it is good to get out, else it festers and grows.

"I was angry with my friend:
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe;
I told it not, my wrath did grow."

Billy Blake - Poison Tree

Unfortunately, us men have the need to fight sometimes in order to get along. Look at the bloody Civil War over here. After all the horrific bloody carnage was over, both sides respected the other abilities. But it took a war.

From the rest of your post, I can see that you are angry about a lot of things. Things beyond your control. I think we all are right now. That is the point I was trying to make. The world, our world is changing fast, we, none of us, know where it going. We white males, have been displaced fast. We have lost our place in the world. Our role has changed. I suppose if one is a very wealthy white male, it is fine world after all. But for the rest of us, we get all the blame, and yet we feel an increasing sense of powerlessness to influence things.

I have an ex-girlfriend, who came to see me, and expressed that point. She thinks it is an organized plan. She wanted my help with a screen play she has in mind about this. But I do not buy into conspiracy theories. I think the organization is not really organized. But planned or not, it is happening. We are just not needed as we were before. Hell, we even have females in the front lines in combat now.

But in the face of this change, to turn to blaming your brother is stupid, and destructive. Protestant, Catholic, Liberal, Conservative. These are just devisive labels. Look to what unites us. United we stand. Divided we fall.

Fear is the road to the Dark side. First you must admit you are afraid, or anger is the covering cherub, and you can not even see the real problem, but just get angry at your brother.

Trying to make a point here.

Your Brother,
The Flake. smile


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Tiger] #312983
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Originally Posted By: Tiger


Neither of us went beyond 16 yrs old at formal school, that environment did not suit.

Anyone who has a Son/Daughter should get him/her reading books of all sorts at a very young age and interest him/her in tin/lead/antimony bearings and such, there will be plenty of Graduate Engineers who know no such things.


To take this a bit off topic...

I worked for a company a while back that had engineers by the barrel full that happened to despised people like me who obtained an education the old fashioned way. Funny thing is that even though they were designing fluid systems, they did not know what types of valves existed or why you used them (gate, globe, reed, needle, etc...). So when I would ask what good was the $100 k they spent on their pretty formal educations, they would come back with they were taught what book to look the info up in.

I often wonder who would be left helpless if there was a large EMP device denoted over North America that would wipe out everyones gizmos. This is the primary reason I am keeping my Commando on points, at least I'll be able to go 100 miles real fast!


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Geoff] #312989
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Originally Posted By: Geoff
I often wonder who would be left helpless if there was a large EMP device denoted over North America that would wipe out everyones gizmos. This is the primary reason I am keeping my Commando on points, at least I'll be able to go 100 miles real fast!


laughing One reason I kept my points for so long. When they drop the Big One, you will be able to go, and not many will.

I guess I am getting older now. Its lost its appeal. Maybe because there is not as much Future to run to.


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: btour] #313018
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Originally Posted By: btour
Originally Posted By: Geoff
I often wonder who would be left helpless if there was a large EMP device denoted over North America that would wipe out everyones gizmos. This is the primary reason I am keeping my Commando on points, at least I'll be able to go 100 miles real fast!


laughing One reason I kept my points for so long. When they drop the Big One, you will be able to go, and not many will.

I guess I am getting older now. Its lost its appeal. Maybe because there is not as much Future to run to.


Don't get me wrong, I like EI & have it in my Triumph... but just in case laughing


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Geoff] #313039
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Originally Posted By: Geoff

I often wonder who would be left helpless if there was a large EMP device denoted over North America that would wipe out everyones gizmos. This is the primary reason I am keeping my Commando on points, at least I'll be able to go 100 miles real fast!


Holy cow, what a fantastic idea!! I'm gonna gather up my condensors, AAU and points and put on the shelf in the basement right next to the bottled water, flashlights, gun safe and duct-tape!! laugh

Here's a thought....is my single-phase regulator safe or do I need to gather up my rectifier and zener too!?!?!? smile

Afterthought: Suuuurrre.....EI in the Triumph but NOT the Norton.....we know where YOUR loyalties lie, Geoff!! laughing laughing

Cheers,

Steve

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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: JubeePrince] #313062
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Magnetic reversals eh? Yeah, I guess we're overdue for one any eon now. Only been two, three hundred that have occured or at least those are the only ones we have evidence of....

The next will be the first we know of with electronic or electric devices that would be subject to large polarity swings. We'll see how we do! Technology... depend on it and it's bound to fail. Whole generation of finger talkers out there, hope they can cope.

Don in Nipomo

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Hi All,

Just have to wonder that trying to keep these things out of your beer stash in OZ woudn't keep any of us on the edge?



Cheers~Bob


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Originally Posted By: D.Bachtel
Magnetic reversals eh? Yeah, I guess we're overdue for one any eon now. Only been two, three hundred that have occured or at least those are the only ones we have evidence of....

The next will be the first we know of with electronic or electric devices that would be subject to large polarity swings. We'll see how we do! Technology... depend on it and it's bound to fail. Whole generation of finger talkers out there, hope they can cope.

Don in Nipomo


That is a good one Don. I had forgotten about those flips. We shall see what happens. I had theory they effect the mutation rate also. laughing

I hate to kill the buzz for all the point hanger oners but all we EI guys gotta do is shield the stuff with lead. So, it is time to go out and find some lead and have it handy, and remember where you put it, when "the time" comes.


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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Bob~NJ] #313106
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Originally Posted By: Bob~NJ
Hi All,

Just have to wonder that trying to keep these things out of your beer stash in OZ woudn't keep any of us on the edge?



Cheers~Bob


What in the heck is that thing, and is it impervious to bullets?


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Originally Posted By: btour
Originally Posted By: D.Bachtel
Magnetic reversals eh? Yeah, I guess we're overdue for one any eon now. Only been two, three hundred that have occured or at least those are the only ones we have evidence of....

The next will be the first we know of with electronic or electric devices that would be subject to large polarity swings. We'll see how we do! Technology... depend on it and it's bound to fail. Whole generation of finger talkers out there, hope they can cope.

Don in Nipomo


That is a good one Don. I had forgotten about those flips. We shall see what happens. I had theory they effect the mutation rate also. laughing

I hate to kill the buzz for all the point hanger oners but all we EI guys gotta do is shield the stuff with lead. So, it is time to go out and find some lead and have it handy, and remember where you put it, when "the time" comes.


Aw, the points are working on the Commando, why replace them? I switched to EI on the Triumph because I could not get the timing to hold. Its a moot point anyway, as I don't think the Commando would be able to travel very long w/o a large stash of parts - which in the end times would be somewhat difficult to obtain.

Now the Allstate might make for a good end of the world mode of transport - all I need is some big spikes and fur for my leathers laughing

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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Geoff] #313110
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I resisted losing the points for a very very long time, too. When I found that suitable Triumph points were not available, I made the leap. And I am really happy I did. One thing that does not need attention any more.

Anyway, if it a choice of riding now, or riding in the end time, I have gotta choose NOW.


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Damn lousy Triumph points, switching away from them is my spring project. After over 20 years. But if EMF becomes an issue my mountain bicycle is a much better bet anyway. And it's not like I'll want to go anywhere.


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Originally Posted By: shel
He can't go for a ride Ger. His clutch is slipping


Timing is eveything Shel, spot on!! RR


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Originally Posted By: enigmaT120
Damn lousy Triumph points, switching away from them is my spring project. After over 20 years. But if EMF becomes an issue my mountain bicycle is a much better bet anyway. And it's not like I'll want to go anywhere.





If EMP becomes an issue Ed you best have vast stores of food and a good supply guns and ammunition put by 'cause EMP will be the start of the last world war for a very long time.

Contemporary Society is a very fragile thing, "our" financial systems alone could trash the system completely.

Worst case is that you may have to shoot and eat your neighbours.

I have doubts about this "God" thing, mostly I feel that that shysters claiming to represent one god or another seek power and wealth by accomodating a bloke's incomprehension of where all this stuff came from.

You Democrats have to look a little further than "other folk's money" and look at the bigger philisophical picture, what made the Earth and the solar system and the galaxies and the "Universe" ?

Which is why I disdain to suffer fools and verbose dilletantes.


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A politician walked into a bar, "ow!" he said...

That's a joke from one of my school kids...

Right that's enough of dreary politics, back to the motorcycles for me... laughing


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Originally Posted By: KarlB
A politician walked into a bar, "ow!" he said...

That's a joke from one of my school kids...

Right that's enough of dreary politics, back to the motorcycles for me... laughing


right on Karl.
it all amounts to a certain level of mere blah blah blah.
but i STILL wanna know what that giant crab-lookin thing is hangin off that dude's trash can... help

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Originally Posted By: Bob~NJ
Hi All,

Just have to wonder that trying to keep these things out of your beer stash in OZ woudn't keep any of us on the edge?



Cheers~Bob


What in the heck is that thing, and is it impervious to bullets?


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It's the Coconut crab..
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....coconut crab may be responsible for the disappearance of Amelia Earhart, consuming her remains and hoarding her bones in its crab burrow...

Kinda causes a rethink on that Robinson Crusoe sleeping on the ground thing...these things climb trees and carry the coconuts up the trees to drop them, and dismantle the coconuts with their claws. Mas yikes!!

Read up on it here..an amazing creature, yummy and extinct in some areas due to being thought to be an aphrodisiac and also it's proven yumminess, surprise surprise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_crab

There's pictures for the non-verbose non-readers. grin

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Right..

Blimey .....

I have read through all this Heeeeeavy philosophical/political/socio-wossname stuff, and I have carefully considered all the views, angles and points.

As a result, after long and careful consideration, I can now formulate my *own* view.

And actually, it boils down to this :-

WHO'S ROUND IS IT ?

Mine's a pint of Heavy....

Cheers!

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Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Graham Ham] #313329
05/14/10 5:18 pm
05/14/10 5:18 pm
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Stone Creek OH USA
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Rich B Offline
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Stone Creek OH USA
Graham Ham sez:

"WHO'S ROUND IS IT ?"

We all know for dāmn sure it isn't your round laugh

I suppose you will expect Grandad or Shaun to buy a round for everyone AGAIN laughing beerchug


Life is too short to drink cheap, bad beer.
Re: Tiger, tiger burning bright. Sit down. Have a beer [Re: Rich B] #313334
05/14/10 5:35 pm
05/14/10 5:35 pm
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Greensboro, NC
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Guys,

It's Spring almost Summer....

You are allowed to go outside....

Back away from your computers....

Nothing...Nothing....Nothing is solved inside.

Wasn't there a gentleman (who lived by a pond) who said "I solve all of my problems during pleasant walks in the woods".

Chill....no problems being solved here.


Alan
Cleared m out....left only
59 BSA Bantam (Trials)
78 Triumph Bonny (UPS)
02 Suzuki GS500
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