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BSA 441 shop manual #29711
09/30/07 3:17 pm
09/30/07 3:17 pm
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Charleston SC
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Any suggestions on a good one?

Baby just turned 7500 miles, need to do some scheduled and preventative maintenance, and I have no manual to work from. Way back when, I put an exhaust valve in it and managed to succeed, but I have no idea whether I did it right, although it runs fine, if noisy.

Yes, I see the CD manuals advertised here, and they no doubt seem packed with info, and a great value to the owner of an array of BSA's.

But, the cost is high for a single model owner...


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Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29712
09/30/07 3:31 pm
09/30/07 3:31 pm
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SLO County, CA
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I'd buy one of each...

Factory
Haynes
Chilton
Clymer
Rupert Ratio

Don in Nipomo bigt


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Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29713
09/30/07 3:31 pm
09/30/07 3:31 pm
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Salem, MA
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You may think so, but you will pay $30.00 for the shop manual most anywhere, and at least $20.00 for the parts manual. That's $50.00 for the literature on your _one_ model.
The BSA CD is $50.00 for almost ALL models.
Ron

Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29714
09/30/07 4:06 pm
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Charleston SC
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I will probably end up with 1 manual, so I want it to be a good one.

The CD manuals are $65 shipped. Not denying that they arent nice, but just high for a budget biker like me, and a bit of overkill with the other models covered.

Wish they werent bundled, or bundled by number of cylinders {hopefully cheaper}, that would make them much more appealing, at least to me.


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Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29715
09/30/07 4:36 pm
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Long Beach, Ca.
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Refrain from buying anything unheathy-cigarettes, booze, sodas, candy, pastries,ice cream, porno and you can afford any manual that you might need. Maybe even lose some weight. bigt

Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29716
09/30/07 4:43 pm
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I have all the above-mentioned manuals, but if limited to just one, I'd take the Rupert Ratio, which covers all the unit-singles. It's very informative and full of helpful ideas. The OVBSAOC used to sell them for $30 delivered. Just my 2-cents worth.

Bob Kent


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Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29717
09/30/07 5:07 pm
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Long Beach, Ca.
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I got my Ruperts from Northern Cal BSAOC for $25 but that was last year. Just checked-$25 postpaid.

Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29718
09/30/07 5:21 pm
09/30/07 5:21 pm
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Charleston SC
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BMc44, you been spyin' on me?...

LOL, Ruperts it is then!


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Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29719
09/30/07 5:44 pm
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At least I didn't say to give up the mistress.

Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29720
10/03/07 4:39 pm
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A CD manual is a nice reference, but not much use while working on the bikey. There's nothing like being able to open to a page, even if you have to hold it open with a wrench. I guess you could open it on a laptop and put that on a stool, but then what do you do when you need another page and both hands are dripping oil? If someone GIVES you a CD then do what I did with my BMW: take it down to the local printshop and have them print you a copy on heavy stock.

Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29721
10/03/07 8:54 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill48:
A CD manual is a nice reference, but not much use while working on the bikey.
Bill....your missing the point of the CD all together. You can PRINT any page/pages you want and carry them into the shop with you...have them right by your side and when your finished...toss them because you can always PRINT more bigt

No more worry about greasy fingerprints....AND when printing a page from the parts manual you can ZOOM in and get a closer view to print out...try that with your paper shop manual.

Gordon in NC bigt

Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29722
10/03/07 11:17 pm
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Ob1.....contact me at dad1150@aol.com

I've misplaced your email addy....Gordon in nC

Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29723
10/04/07 10:55 am
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Annapolis, MD
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A parts catalogue is a must have item.
I think the Rupert Ratio is the best repair manual
followed by the factory workshop manual.(it's OK)
The Haynes book is lousy and a waste of money.
With the CD you get the parts book and workshop manual and (I think) the Instruction manual, or owners manual.
I have never seen the Chilton or Clymer books, but i suspect they are better than the Haynes book.
Just my 2
Cheers
Dennis B


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Re: BSA 441 shop manual #29724
10/04/07 12:33 pm
10/04/07 12:33 pm
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Both manuals and CD's have their place in this world. I like a shop manual and a parts manual for each bike I own. These manuals are in the shop and I go thru them regularly searching for a forgotten tidbit. It seems if I did have a CD that I would be traipsing (sp) back and forth to the house with greasy cloths to print out pages and paying HP big bucks for ink cartridges. On the other hand it would be nice to put the CD into the computer when I am trying to answer a query on the website or just tyring to find some info. So i am buying the CD's to complement my manuals. BTW, for unit singles, I put the shop manual and Rupert Ratio at Number one. Remember that Rupert Ratio is really designed for complementing the shopmanual and making performance improvements. If I could have only one it would probably be RR. Haynes and Clymer are second. Haynes is more a step by step disassembly procedure manual and I did my first rebuilds years ago with only a Haynes.

Mr Mike


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