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#28545 - 08/25/07 4:25 am 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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Planning on doing the paint in this bike on Monday and looking for the paint codes that closely match the original paint choices for this bike. Am I correct that a golden red and a blue were original choices? Does anyone have the paint codes that would match? ICI codes would be ideal but we should be able to cross reference anything.


Thanks so much in advance

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#28546 - 08/25/07 10:44 am Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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I gotta say please don't paint that bike. It all fits together so well. A little hand rubbing a little chrome polish.... I don't know how it was stored but they did a good job. To me it's a perfect example of a bike that if painted, it's going to look better than it ever was, witch is a shame ...


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#28547 - 08/25/07 12:01 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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Just used House of colors gold underneath red candy on the top. You could use silver instead of gold.I did a 67 and a 69 same time.


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1966 441
1968 Thunderbolt
1969 Twinkle 250
1972 Fastback
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#28548 - 08/25/07 1:13 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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Norbsa,
I would normally agree with you and not paint this bike as it is a very nice unrestored low mileage example, however the tank that you see in the picture has been replaced as it was coated inside years ago with a lining that I'm guessing was not a real tank lining and it has badly cracked and flaked. All the normal methods of removal haven't worked and that stuff simply will not budge.. So, a replacement tank was sourced in very good shape however it is blue. We thought about sourcing replacement side covers and storing away the original covers and tank but this is my fathers bike and he just wants to get it done so paint it is smile

#28549 - 08/25/07 1:55 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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I have seen Black with white stripes and Red with white stripes on the lightings but Blue with white stripes was a Thunder Bolt color as far as I have seen. I just built a rig to clean problem tanks it's dirt cheap and uses shattered tempered glass as an aggregate. It will save that stock paint and do it fast. I will post some pictures later today.


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1960 TR6
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1965 650 Star
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1968 Thunderbolt
1969 Twinkle 250
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#28550 - 08/28/07 12:18 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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The factory painted them with a silver undercoat followed by gold then the translucient red laquer.
The actual red is not all that important as you just keep putting on more & more layers till you get the desired darkness.
The bad bit was that some of them faded on the truck on the way to the shop while others faded in the shop window so getting the "catalogue" correct colour is a bit of a furffy.

The badges got 3 coats of the same red but they faded or fell off so quich that they changed to solid colours latter on.

The real important bit is to use the gold base coat.
If you go for the blue then you use a aluminium base coat.


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#28551 - 08/28/07 1:45 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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For '69, Lightenings were red and Thunderbolts were blue. In '70, this was reversed.
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#28552 - 08/28/07 1:57 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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Well,
Talked to my father last night and it seems he couldn't wait and simply picked a blue that he liked from an ICI paint chip catalog and shot the bike that color. His thought is that he get the bike on the road and have some fun with it (It will be a rider not a hider) and he can always change the color to anything he wants in the future as it is only the tank and side covers so a simple and quick job.

An interesting note however is that it seems the side covers were not original paint after all. As he stripped the covers to prep for repaint he found evidence of a previous very well done repair. I Don't feel so bad now..

#28553 - 08/28/07 1:58 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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For 68 - 70, the standard US tank on the unit twins was the same piece of sheetmetal. There were also twins that may/may not have been supplied with the 69 Firebird Scrambler style tank, some others with home market tanks. There was some loose deals on specifications with those bikes.

The paint scheme should have been the same on the small US style tank. But there does seem to be at least 2 patterns used. The common style with the sharp taper to the painted top portion of the tank where it meets the seat. Or, the less common but some times seen version with the less taper at the top where it meets the seat. It is more like an A10 pattern paint job. My 68 Lightning has the latter style, and has had since it's original paint was applied.

Saying one specific color or the other is correct is shaky also. Dealers switched around tanks and the factory didn't always build them exactly as the specifications say. Red is fairly common for 68/69 Lightning's, the blue 70's exist, but there are also red 70's floating around, blue 69's, etc. My 68 is technically the wrong color (it is 68 Firebird Scrambler red), but this was the original color on the tank and side covers. I have also found a few other 68 & 69's that were this color originally.

So there is no hard and fast rule as to correct tank, paint scheme, and color for 68 - 70 Lightnings. Pick one you like and go with it.


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#28554 - 08/28/07 2:58 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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Yes tanks get switched and exceptions were made, but I think it is safe and correct to say '69 Lightenings (US) were predominately red, '69 Thunderbolts predominately blue.

In '70, Lightenings were predominately blue.

Peter


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#28555 - 08/28/07 6:35 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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Wow - norbsa. That is one beautiful bike/paint job - is that a '68 Thunderbolt with an earlier gas cap?
Peter


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#28556 - 08/28/07 8:35 pm Re: 1969 BSA Lightning Paint Codes  
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That is a 67 tank. This is a 69 that I sold to an Australian painted at the same time.


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1969 Twinkle 250
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