hi, i need to get a title to a couple of projects i picked up... im sure you all know the same old story, i bought a bike (3 actually) with no title. the guy i got them from got them from buddys on trade for work with no titles years ago, etc, etc. etc. i know the guy i got it from pretty well and he wouldnt chance me (or himself) getting into trouble so im positive its not stolen or anything... i just need a title. anyone know how to go about getting one? anyone know of any services, etc? if anyones had any luck with this, let me know thanks jason beaver, pa 72 750 bonny 70 t100 tiger (no title) 68 t120 pile of parts 94 xl 95 buell s2 75 cz125 more piles o parts...
here's my luck in NC........spent $200 on title service was told by highway patrol theft div. that it wasn't worth the paper it was written on....paid $100 for bond..had highway patrol theft div. person come out to look at bike..he ran #s to check if it was 'hot'...nonmatching frame and engine # meant 'rider' attached to bond, filled out about six or seven state DMV forms ..provided bill of sale to authorities, made two trips to DMV..paid $70 for tag and temporary title (finally)..girl at DMV said title itself would come in 3 weeks ..that was three months ago and no title has arrived..called DMV in Raleigh was told since it was a vehicle over 35 yrs old and had a bond (that was for 1 1/2 times the value and supposed to cover the state's ass if someone came along and laid a claim on the bike) that it would be hard telling when i would get a title and after they researched the history of the vehicle if anything fishy came up in its past i would not get one at all and could turn the tag in..might be fined..could come get bike etc....does that help answer your question?..in other words get a clear title or prepare to go to war with the government(and they got the biggest guns)
In California. I had to fill out 2 simple forms and have my serial numbers verified by a deputy sheriff. One trip to the DMV and I walked out with license plates. The title came in the mail a week later. A buddy just did his bike and he had to get a title bond ($100.00 also), so I guess the clerks have some leeway, but he walked with plates and his title came quickly too.
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Re: how to get lost titles on our old bikes
#264454 07/13/092:25 pm07/13/092:25 pm
The experience that you will have in getting a title for a non-titled bike will depend totally on:
1) What state you're in. Different states have different laws. What works in North Dakota will be useless in New Jersey.
2) What Motor Vehicle office you go into. Some of them are staffed by ignorant, arrogant jobsworths who have their job as a political plum or via nepotism, and will do nothing to help you. Some of them are staffed by helpful people who understand that they are working for YOU. You have to find a good office.
In Virginia, it's not a big problem. You will have to make a couple of personal visits to the DMV office and to the State Police division office so that a State Police officer can look over your bike, see if the ID numbers look right (filed off and restamped, maybe? he won't like that). If that works out OK, it's a couple of weeks for approval in Richmond and your title comes in the mail.
In other states .... try it and see!
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Re: how to get lost titles on our old bikes
#264473 07/13/094:43 pm07/13/094:43 pm
I called the NCDMV in Raleigh and asked what the status of my title was...the dame said the frame and engine #s were sent to the Microfiche Division so a person there could sit down and look through decades of Microfice registrations to see if anyone in NC had ever owned either the frame or motor over the past 40 years or so....she said it would 'take a while" of course the fact that it was an out of state buy and the paperwork I sent reflecting that didn't make a hill of beans to the Microfice Monkeys
I had a breeze of a time in Colorado using International Title service. $85 for the service, $5 for the notary public witness on my bill of sale to them. no hassle at the DMV, handed over my paperwork and let them figure it out without input from me. VIN verification on site for a small fee and walked out with a license plate and got the real title a month or so later!
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Lannis is quite right. Here in Washington State a title-less old rebuild can be registered and tagged on the basis of some VIN (e.g., engine number). The vehicle must be inspected and verified (they must see the VIN on an operating vehicle) by the Highway Patrol. The DOL then issues an "ownership in doubt" title that exists for 24 months, plus the tags. At the end of the 24-month period, a standard title is issued. The owner is free to sell the vehicle without interrupting the 24-month period. Pretty civilized. Must be all the rain.
Rick in Seattle 1970 BSA 441 Victor Special 1972 Norton Commando 750 Combat 1975 Norton 850 Commando Mk3 1960 Triumph TR3A
Lo! and Behold!! I just received the title to my A65 from the NCDMV...what a coincidence!! It's dated July 14..the very day I called and had a chat with them about why it was taking over 3 months to get it....Imagine that!!! Government in action!!
I've use ITS several times through the years. It's cheap and easy to get a title through them. Living in Illinois I just found out by the state that there is a Hurricane disclosure statement that has to now be filled out for bikes sold from Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana in order to get a non branded (flood) title. So I have an extra 6 weeks to wait for my T100 title.
I agree with Lannis and just to prove a point he mentioned the person in the DMV office..... Here's my story in NC with an out of state not titled motorcycle. Called DMV. They told me to get an estimate of value and post bond and then bring the bike in for inspection. I did that over a period of time as I was finishing up the bike. When I was done I filled out the forms, took it to the DMV. I had softened up the guy who does these inspections with some samll talk, made an appointment, and drove up with the bike in the back of my truck. I got a brief walk around inspection with the bike on the truck, finished the paperwork and went to the license plate agency (different from DMV in NC) and got my plate. New NC title came some time later as I recall. Pretty straightforward, but I did get along with the inspection guy because he was running for sheriff and having been in politics myself we had some common ground.