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Electric Start BSA #264045
07/10/09 9:11 pm
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Attending the GB BSAOC Open Day and Rally recently, there was a lot of interesting stuff going on.
Stephen Robert McFarlane (Mr S.R.M) was demonstrating his electric start A10, the kit is not cheap at £795, it cannot be seen unless you look under the engine, on test it did 200 starts on a fully charged battery with the charging system disconnected.
The kit includes starter button, wiring, battery, starter motor, starter solenoid, gear reduction mechanism, mounting plates, nuts, bolts and studs, fits all pre-unit swing arm A10, A7, B33, B31 and Gold Star models, not plungers.
Not to be confused with other starter systems for BSA's that require the starter motor to spin before engagement.
Steve's skills are associated with BSA modifications, sadly not with website access, he is based in Cardiff and can be contacted on +44 02920 645045 or stephen.mcfarlane73@ntlworld.com
A very nice person who I have known for many years,
Steve attended the BSAOC International Rally on the IOM last year, he fixed problems on a few American bikes while they watched in awe at the Welsh Wizard at work.

Steve has informed me that the website listed below will be up and running very soon.
www.startyourbsa.com
At this moment in time this site is not up and running, please be patient.

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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Peter Twyman R.I.P.] #264070
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Sounds like a winner. We now will have a choice as Phil Pearson converts BSA pre-unit singles to electric start and will be coming out with a conversion for the twins (A7. A10)

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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Gordo in Comox] #264744
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Phil Pearson phoned me and asked me about my A10 electric starter. We spoke for a while about this subject. He said he was busy with the gold star starters, and gave me the impression that he isn’t going to do one for the A10 now

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: S. R. McFarlane] #264747
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P.S. there should be an article in the article in the August “Star” about it and the web site should be up and running in about a week

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: S. R. McFarlane] #264749
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S.R. According to Peter's post your starter will work on both the pre-unit twins and singles. How does it differ from Phil Pearson's single starter? Can you post photos of your unit?

Gordo


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Gordo in Comox] #264751
07/14/09 7:58 pm
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Mine is completely different to his!!
From what I have seen he hasn’t got much of a reduction from the starter motor to the engine and has to use the decompressor lever to get the engine spinning for a few revs and then you let out the decompressor lever and the momentum gets the motor started.
I have a reduction gear set similar to a modern bike, and you just press the button and it starts, on the web site will be a link to a u-tube video of it in action

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: S. R. McFarlane] #266115
07/21/09 9:35 pm
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I have been in contact with Stephen and it looks almost certain that he will be attending the September 2009 BSA International Rally in Holland on his Electric Start BSA A10.
So this is the place to be if you wish to see first hand how this bike performs.
Click on www.bsa-oc.com for rally information
Around 50% of attendees will be Brits.

Peter.

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Peter Twyman R.I.P.] #266874
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Basic web site now on line, please keep checking it as I will be updating it with more info regularly over the next few weeks

www.startyourbsa.com

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: S. R. McFarlane] #267472
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But not the Unit Twin?

<sigh>


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Semper Gumby] #267474
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Who cares. The unit twins are ridden by real men, SG. laughing


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Ger B] #267476
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Given that starting a twin is really at best just starting two 325cc singles in sequence the term "real men" does not come into the discussion.

Ask the lads starting the 500cc and 600cc Gold Stars singles about the condition of their right legs.

Gordo


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Gordo in Comox] #267479
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I did not bring the term into discussion, Gordo.
I just said it with a smile on my face.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings.


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Ger B] #267504
07/29/09 5:50 pm
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I agree with Gordo

Used to drive a Yamaha SR500 hi comp without using decompressionvalve

it´s not too bad as long as you know the technique

Here in Sweden we have something like the Brittish MOT but every year and everytime they asked me if i could start it for their testride

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Ger B] #267505
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Ger:
Actually I enjoy the easy starting of my 1965 A65T/R and 500 Triumph twins.

As a young lad years ago scrambling an early T100C it was always easy to get restarted after a spill. The big singles boys always lost a lot of time trying to get sparked up after an off.

It will be interesting to see if this electric starter will be able to turn over a Gold Star without using the Phil Pearson decompressor first method.

Gordo


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Gordo in Comox] #267519
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Mine also starts easely and I sometimes start it wearing soft sole slippers. Maybe the EI helps there...
I never did that with my Ariel 350 single and with the BSA B-31 a friend owned in that era, even though my knees were 40 year younger then. beerchug


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Ger B] #268851
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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: S. R. McFarlane] #272197
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Website updated with inside picture

www.startyourbsa.com

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: S. R. McFarlane] #275770
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I have been getting quite a few peoples asking me if it will fit with a belt drive fitted, I have received a Tony Haywood belt drive kit and I am going to see if I can alter it to be able to fit.
I was wondering how many peoples have a belt drive and what make it is?

Steve

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: S. R. McFarlane] #275781
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Here is a link to the Person unit in operation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v3C1hit2u0

I believe Person's system comes with a new reinforced inner primary (all holes drilled as needed) as the factory part is not very stout, which is why Pearson does not (yet) have a set up for the twins.

Also, I hesitate to think what any kick back by a big single would do to an electric starter NOT using the compression release. Some..? of the big Japanese singles have an automatic decompressor on their electric start bikes.. Any unit using a sprague clutch could easily break with kick back.

Ron

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Ron - in California R.I.P.] #431108
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I heard some one in TEXAS was installing one of these kits and would love to see it or hear from them!
If you are installing one e-mail me triumph51@att.net


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Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Ger B] #448605
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Does anyone know what has happened to Steve Macfarlanes electric start business? I have been trying to get my bike fitted with an electric starter for some while now. Today I went to look at his website and it is longer active. A sreen appears saying that the site is no longer active. Has he discontinued doing this conversion?

John

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Peter Twyman R.I.P.] #448642
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Some people have knee trouble that prevents them from kick starting. I have several people that bought my triple starters to convert R3s and T150s because of that. One person with a 1000cc Hyde triple racer uses one because he cannot push start it with his bad knees but still wants to race.
I am working on an A65/T120 electric start but it needs a clutch to go with it. Stock clutches flop around when the pressure plate is lifted and would wear out the ring gear quickly.

Re: Electric Start BSA [Re: Peter Twyman R.I.P.] #448649
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John Edwards and Phil Pearson do a very nicely engineered electric start conversion for pre-unit singles - intended for Gold Stars, though I'm sure they would fit on a B31 or B33. The kit involves conversion to 12V. negative earth, and uses a new alloy inner primary chain case (as it has lugs cast in it for the starter kit), plus the starter, etc, etc.

Works very well and not hard on the battery. I've seen it in use on John's bike (which herecently sold). Cost is about GBP1200, though I suspect that includes the work to fitt it. If anyone wants Johns contact details, PM me.

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