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A65 Cam Follower Circlips #257816
06/07/09 1:19 pm
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Rotherham, UK
Ian Clifton Offline OP

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Has anyone had experience of trying to fit those circlips? I bought what I thought was the correct tool, but even with that it seems an almost immposible feat!! Are the ciclips even necessary? I assume they are there only for removal and replacement of the barrel.. Your thoughts would be most appreciated..


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Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ian Clifton] #257818
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As far as I understand, these circlips are there only to prevent the followers (as you assume) from falling out of the cylinder barrel when you handle that.
The engine can safely run without them.

Why did you remove your picture of this bike from your post of July 20 last year?


Ger B

Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ger B] #257830
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Hi

I have fitted those pain in the backside clips twice now, The best method I have found is to get a tube that u can drill/machine to just fit over the 'bullet shape head' of the follower, slide the clip down and use a screwdriver or similar to pop them into place. A bit fiddly but.....works.

Hope this helps.

Wayne

Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ger B] #257831
06/07/09 3:09 pm
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Hi Ger, Thanks for that. Re: the pictures, I didn't remove them.. I posted them as you saw, then some time later they dissappeared!! Very Strange. I will try to re-post later.


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Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ian Clifton] #257832
06/07/09 3:11 pm
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Thanks Wayne. I've now managed it after some fiddling!!


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Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ian Clifton] #257864
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rothery;

I do run my engines without the circlips, definitely no need for them.
For top end assembly I put some white grease or vaseline, which gets solved in the engine oil more easily (no, Ger.... do not even think about making jokes about this! laugh ) on the tappets. That keeps them from falling out.
The only good thing about the circlips is when disassembling the top end. The tappets stay in place then, without you have to be careful to get each tappet back on its own cam.
FWIW


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Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Phil in Germany] #257911
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Quote:
no, Ger.... do not even think about


Why are you looking at me??? laughing


Ger B

Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ger B] #257934
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Originally Posted By: Ger
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no, Ger.... do not even think about


Why are you looking at me??? laughing


Because the vaseline he mentioned would prevent the "sitting" problem in your Shout box joke .... ??? laughing

Lannis


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Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Lannis] #257970
06/08/09 4:32 pm
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Many thanks again Guys for your input. On a separate note, I couldn't find my BSA workshop manual, so refered to the Haynes for torque settings on the oil pump drive worm gear. Haynes state 60 ft/lbs whereas BSA recommend 35. Quite a potential thread stripping difference!!!


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Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ian Clifton] #258009
06/08/09 9:14 pm
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Circlip mounting:
Grease up the end of a suitable plastic tube, stick the clip to the end and force the tube down the stem until the circlip is home.

Best regards


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Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: Ola] #258013
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May I dare say: Buy the tool!


Re: A65 Cam Follower Circlips [Re: John Healy] #258024
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I just push a piece of plastic hose onto each to hold them in place while fitting or removing cyls.


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