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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254760
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well, i am basically happy as ever, work is UP this month but DOWN last month, next month LOOKS good but if MY first quarter average holds true, i'll top out at $19,000+/- this year.
who needs money if you got LOVE?

as for political statements, heres MINE:
JUST last night (SERIOUSLY) i found out there are BLACK republicans!!!

dude, i gotta GET OUT MORE OFTEN!
see what happens when you WATCH TV?

i'm tellin ya, man it just keeps getting weirder and weirder!
where will it END?

so far so good lannis...keep up the good work bro!



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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: ricochetrider] #254761
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Originally Posted By: ricochetrider

who needs money if you got LOVE?



I NEED love ... I LIKE money ... !

Pace'n'luv bro !

Lannis


I stopped believing for a little while this morning. Journey is really going to be upset.
Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254764
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Originally Posted By: trumpetloon
Well... seems I have come late to this party.... Are all of you who corresponded during business hours out of work? .....


No but we will be if you keep on talkin' .... shocked shocked

Lannis


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254772
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Lannis sez: "And when Obama finally craters and burns like Johnson and Carter and Clinton (why, that's every blue Prez for the past 45 years!), we'll be there to pick up the pieces and make smaller pieces out of them for the next 4 or 8 or 12 years...."

Oh Mercy! I was so happy that George W Bush came to pick up the pieces after Clinton!!! You know, the budget surplus he was given and all! He did a right bang-up job! All that Dogma jam'd down our throats. Very Yummy!!. Oh and let's not forget he brought the boogie man out of the closet. ( Hey, great time to make some silly predictions!)Yes, be very very afraid! Oh and lets not forget how strong he said our house of cards were! (economy) Oh, the big one was how he united the planet! Yep-pers, he really pick'd up the pieces!!


Lannis sez: "But I'll tell you, with your tenderness of conscience about "insults"

No insults to me! I've been thru alot in my life time.

Just thought I would give a hint that you might be digging a hole and folks might not think that the last 8 years were that keen.

Predictions: Critical thinking is a lost art.


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: rick e.] #254773
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Gee, I seem to remember paying $3.49 a gallon for regular gas on one of my rides to California . . . I haven't been to California since Mr Obama was elected our President, so it must have been on the other guy's watch.


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254776
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Well Lannis, I'm happy that the "doom sayers" were less than accurate. Being retired, on fixed income, I'm not doing so bad...but if I still lived in Charlottesville, (the city of my birth) I'd be paying the Commonwealth nasty ol' income taxes...that would cut in to my discretionary income, which I spend on ale.... and re-chroming!


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254821
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Interesting, Oh yeh,come on guys,just watch NPR and be "HAPPY" I'm goin' ridin'
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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: flgoff] #254830
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Originally Posted By: flgoff
Gee, I seem to remember paying $3.49 a gallon for regular gas on one of my rides to California . . . I haven't been to California since Mr Obama was elected our President, so it must have been on the other guy's watch.


I'm guessing Lannis meant GHW Bush? Gas was over $4.00 a gallon here two years ago on his spawn's watch.


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Alex] #254831
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Oh guys - the point was that last year, while one of the Bushes and his Big Oil Henchmen were in control of oil prices, manipulating them as they willed and laughing as they pocketed the enormous profits, we were at a point when I was paying $1.65 a gallon for gas.

Now there's another guy in charge. One who supposedly does NOT control oil prices via his Big Oil Henchmen. And since he's been in charge, gas has climbed to $2.25 a gallon.

My apparently-too-subtle point was that EITHER:

1) Gas prices aren't and weren't controlled by Bush and his Big Oil Henchmen, as some frantic victim-hunters here were asserting

OR

2) Obama has his OWN Big Oil Henchmen and they are pocketing increasing profits and laughing all the way to the bank and slipping Michelle a little on the side to keep it quiet.

I'm sure that someone will scramble around and propose that while Bush was "in control", that he controlled oil prices to his benefit. But now, it's all changed, and market forces, supply and demand, have taken over, and poor BHO can't do a thing about it ....

I can't believe this is all you guys got ... ?

Lannis


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254842
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Or perhaps big oil is completely beyond anyone in governments control and they just do whatever they want . Seems strange to me that the announcement every January that " gas will be at thus and such by Memorial Day " always comes true .
As to unemployment rates maybe the key isn't how high they are but how many people with decent paying jobs have been forced to take much lower paying jobs in this fine ecomnomic climate . Maybe underemployed is the apprpriate word .


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: George Elston] #254844
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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: George Elston] #254845
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Originally Posted By: George Elston
Or perhaps big oil is completely beyond anyone in governments control and they just do whatever they want . Seems strange to me that the announcement every January that " gas will be at thus and such by Memorial Day " always comes true .
As to unemployment rates maybe the key isn't how high they are but how many people with decent paying jobs have been forced to take much lower paying jobs in this fine ecomnomic climate . Maybe underemployed is the apprpriate word .


Perhaps they are beyond anybody's control. If that's the case, and we demonstrate that we will sit still for $3.50 a gallon gas and keep burning it at the same rate, then why do they let it drop to half of that, whacking their own profits and revenues? Maybe they're just not very smart. At least that would fit the facts.

And maybe some people ARE underemployed. There's no way to really tell, but, taking it as a hypothesis, I can't make it square with the facts of what I see every day, and see in airports, and see at rallies and at the Talladega races and in constantly over-booked hotel rooms, and constantly-expanding development. Looks like I'd see SOME dimunition in traffic, and the number of boats lined up at ramps on the lakes, and the length of lines of people trying to get into expensive restaurants on Friday night. But I don't.

Still, it's possible.

Lannis


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254846
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If you drop prices really low for a while, give the sheople excessive credit at artificially low rates so they can mortgage their house, tell them to do their patriotic duty and buy a ridiculously inefficient SUV so Bin Laden didn't win, you're going to make a lot more money after raising the prices than if you just kept them high. It sure worked.


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254848
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Lannis: "I'm sure that someone will scramble around and propose that while Bush was "in control", that he controlled oil prices to his benefit."

Wow, I agree with Lannis. GWB never control'd anything in is life. (except kicking the booze and....and his lemmings) Do a little reading, he screw'd up every deal/business when it came to oil or anything else for that matter.... But man he sure try'd to play with the big oil boys. Even try'd carving out a country and who owns what....

As far as "poor BHO" Lannis was almost right. He got the supply and demand part right. But "poor BHO" just changed the MPG standard (i.e. DEMAND side) "...can't do a thing" Really?

GWB and the Right thought the "Supply" side was the way to go. Drill baby drill....that holes getting deeper!

Since you cherry pick'd that 'flash in the pan' $1.65 number. I pay'd $5.15 Bay Area West Coast under GWB.


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: rick e.] #254851
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Oh HH is right. A really, really, good read is how unemployment numbers are generated/calc. Most people think that 8% unemployed means 92% have jobs.....


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: rick e.] #254853
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You guys are the ones who keep bringing up Bush. I never liked him, never thought he was the right guy to be President, never thought that Dynastic Succession (a la Kennedy, Bush, Byrd, Clinton) was the way to go.

If you quit looking at this as an instant kneejerk "Oh, Lannis is Rush Limbaugh and he loves George Bush" and look at what I'm actually writing, which has no love affair with any Bush, GW, G, or J in it, you'll see that I don't deny that we paid big money for gas at one time during the last 8 years.

I'm only saying that we ALSO paid little money for gas, the cheapest in real terms in the last 40 years, during that same time, and it doesn't seem to square with the "Big Oil In Control" scenario, unless you convolute it out of recognition.

Read what I'm writing, not what you heard someone else say on TV, Please!

Or DON'T read what I'm writing, just skip it. My name is pretty unique AND easy to avoid. That would probably help some folkses blood pressure. And that would be great!

Lannis


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: rick e.] #254855
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The underemployed probably don't frequent expensive restaurants or own a boat or book getaway weekends in hotels so you would never have encountered them. I don't think it's a brand new phenomenon it's been going on for quite a whle . Just being exacerbated by current conditions . When I read in the paper that this company laid off 15,000 or that one laid off 6,000 etc etc it's hard to believe that things are not worse than you would like to believe .


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: George Elston] #254856
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Originally Posted By: George Elston
Lannis
When I read in the paper that this company ..... it's hard to believe that things are not worse than you would like to believe .


George -

Exactly my point. "If you read in the paper" ... "If you listen to the news ..."

I'm not exactly "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" myself. I drive by a Wal-Mart every day, I eat in the "Country Kitchen", I lived in a trailer myself for 7 years. I keep my eyes open.

I just wish other people would, and not feed on the media-generated fear. They DO have an agenda to sell papers and air-time and keep people excited and watching ...

Lannis


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254858
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Originally Posted By: rick e.
screw'd ... try'd ... pick'd ... pay'd


rick e.: having an interest in language and its popular usage, I'm interested in how it is you came to use the eighteenth century English past tense variants as quoted above?


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: George Elston] #254873
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Originally Posted By: George Elston
Lannis
When I read in the paper that this company laid off 15,000 or that one laid off 6,000 etc etc it's hard to believe that things are not worse than you would like to believe .


George -

Just to make you feel better, these items, totalling many thousands of jobs and pulled of the stack of dozens of similar ones, will NOT show up in your paper, or on the news.


http://www.prlog.org/10221781-carlsbad-d...ring-plant.html

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=10034672

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/05/volkswagen-to-hold-groundbreaking.html

http://nuclearstreet.com/blogs/nuclear_p...r-business.aspx

www.cityofvalley.com/uploads/RF/ny/RFnyunnnVdB8i40owl-aww/KIA-Groundbreaking-Announcement.pdf

Lots more where that came from. When you're in the business of supporting and building plants and supplying energy to them, you find out these things ...

Lannis


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Lannis] #254876
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Here's some Required reading for those of you who are a bit curious of what went on and what's going on around us, and some things this country could do to correct many bad situations.
The author takes no sides I can detect, but brings out many things about the world and our country I was not aware of. Check your local library or the book sellers.

The 2% Solution

"Fixing America's Problems in Ways Liberals and Conservatives Can Love"

by Matthew Miller


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: dave - NV] #254879
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I never denied that there was growth I was merely pointing out that nearly every day there is a large layoff announced in the papers . I doubt that all these are fabrications .
And if you had the inside scoop on some of these I would bet there is a lot of taxpayer money spent to lure these businesses in . 258 million to KIA alone . I've done a little looking into this stuff and lots and lots of these semi public handouts never generate the $$$ that they project nor do they often meet their job projections . Now that may just be up here in the rust belt
but I suspect that it's pretty prevalent everywhere . The company takes the handouts and the reduced or non existent taxes and when the time comes for them to pay up they just hightail it to the next community that's desparate for any industry no matter what the cost . Hey I've got a baby food plant going up in my little town . 14 years no taxes . Not a bad deal . And it's not even US owned .
Sorry way off topic but one of my pet peeves in case you hadn't guessed .


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: George Elston] #254891
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Well, I've trawled through all this, and I reckon I should add MY tuppence worth.

The Sun came up today.
I was still breathing.
I have mo'sickles in the garage.
I have some cash in my pocket.
Not ALL of the pubs in England have closed down, so there's Ale out there.
The English country-side is in full bloom. The hedges are high, the meadows are vibrant.
I have mo'sickles in the garage.

'Nuff said.

You lot can argue the toss about wether we're all doomed. *I* am gonna ride me bike, go camping, do some rallies, drink some Ale...

It'll ALL be the same when I come back ?

So best I go do it all again ?

bigt


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Re: Time for a Prediction Check-up [Re: Graham Ham] #254900
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Graham ... Thanks for giving us a smile. Luckily I too woke up this morning. Thats always kinda handy. I like that.


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yes graham, i am with you...bro.
no matter what, no matter how *bad* it gets...

we, in this country (USA, i'm being particular about it here) of all places have it so much better than so many other folks in this great big world. hardship MAY be relative, indeed.

lannis, i get your point...
oil:
no body has *control* over these huge companies, the price fluctuates according to market demand AND speculation over FUTURE market demands... smoke and mirrors boys, pure and simple.
last year, when gas prices were at all-time highs, the fact is the oil companies came out reporting RECORD profits... AMAZING coincidence? i think not.

the economy:
some people are out of work,
some are on unemployment.
some are looking for work,
some have taken pay cuts.
some MIGHT get another job,
some have no HOPE IN HELL of getting another job.
for everyone else, it's business as usual.
the U-3 rating
the U-6 rating
smoke and mirrors.

the economy is STILL running on heavy, massive personal DEBT.
when you see these people out therre in their huge motor homes, towing their speed boats, bro, can you really not see that they must be in, what for us would be, UNIMAGINABLE debt?
think that shit is PAID for? i seriously doubt it, in 99.999% of all cases...

one thing's for SURE-
NOTHING is certain today, not like it was even 35 years ago, CERTAINLY not like it was in 1958. things have changed drastically. for the GOOD? well, who knows.

even the president is pretty much a figurehead, the REAL power lies elsewhere.

having said all that, i STILL say i am one of the luckiest sumbeetches alive on this earth! i think we can all agree that we're pretty much in the same boat.




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