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'68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? #238196
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I just picked up a new Bonneville with a rebuilt motor and would like to add a remote oil filter. Are most of you adding a remote oil filter? If so, what is recommended for my year Triumph? In searching the forum, these are the two options I've found. Are there some other options? If I go with a Norton style, do I want one off of a Commando?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Mark Williams] #238199
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I have a MAP on my T120 it tucks in behind the outer gearbox cover nicely..however, i have a norton type coming for the A65....meaning...IMHO...either one is good and just depends on your taste. The Norton type is coming from a place in Cumbria called RGM Motors..they have a great price..only about $25 including shipping to US.

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1968 BSA A65
1968 MGB Roadster
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1969 Honda Mini Trail
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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: raf940] #238288
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i have been trying to order a filter kit from map but after recieving the quote via email 'garrett' is no longer returning my emails?
is there anywhere else that sells the kit that uses the t150 filter that you know of?
would be even better if in the uk.

Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: mick2] #238291
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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: John Healy] #238298
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thanks john, i looked on there but the kit i found wasnt very clear as to what it was, the pic wasnt too good.
if i dont hear back from map by the end of the day will cancel order and go to tri-cor.

Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: mick2] #238384
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mick2 , i've had horrible luck communicating with MAP except by phone . their new www is a joke . most items if even listed are "call for price" poor descriptions and very few pictures of items .

if you've already ordered from them just call by phone and get it over with . if not just go to tri-core .

cheers , Woody

Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Woody1911a1] #238466
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Tri-Cor is tops. Can't do better on parts and service IMHO.


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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Roadwarrior] #238479
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I have the MAP filter that fits behind the right hand pillion foot rest hanger on my 67 650 and I am pleased with it. It uses the trident filter and you only have to loosen one hanger bolt and pivot it down before changing the element.

I had a look at the picture of the Tricor and it looks a similar in design but it seems that it clamps on to the seat tube and is hidden behind the left hand side panel which would make it easy to get at on a '68.

dave

Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: dave jones] #238643
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Hi... just wanted to mention that I pickep up a kit from Gary over at Rask cycle that I was happy with. It uses a stock Harley filter, so you can get them ANYWHERE... lol. They even come in chrome if you want to go that route. I purposely did not grind or cut away the tab you see me using there when I put a hardtail from MAP on the bike, so you may have to improvise on your location.

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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Jethro] #238680
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How about a standard auto remote filter unit, then you won't have to bother with special threads or over priced filters...

http://cgi.eBay.com/ebaymotors/FRAM...ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1227


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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: jugganaut] #238703
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Originally Posted by jugganaut
How about a standard auto remote filter unit, then you won't have to bother with special threads or over priced filters...

http://cgi.eBay.com/ebaymotors/FRAM...ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1227


The Norton mount can easily be bushed up to 3/4 SAE / M20, I think Colorado Norton Works sells the bush for about $US11.00 or they are easily made.


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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Tiger] #238704
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Hi Mark,

I have a filter head and three Champion H101 filters for sale if you are interested.

PM me if you are.

Blapper redwine

Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Blapper] #238724
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Thats because you went with the map filter. Small, compact hard to beat.:)


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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: phantom309] #238730
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Er, um, no. Kirby Rowbotham pressurised feed system. Can you see it yet:

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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: John Healy] #238786
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Originally Posted by John Healy
Tri-Cor


Is the higher cost of the Tri-Cor over the MAP worth it?
Are the filters easy to find in the States?
Is the cost of filters comparable to Norton filters?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Tiger] #238788
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The Norton mount can easily be bushed up to 3/4 SAE / M20, I think Colorado Norton Works sells the bush for about $US11.00 or they are easily made. [/quote]

Is the Norton filter easy to mount or does it require a special bracket?
If so, does anyone sell a bracket for it?

Thanks,
Mark

Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: jugganaut] #238789
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Originally Posted by jugganaut
How about a standard auto remote filter unit, then you won't have to bother with special threads or over priced filters...

http://cgi.eBay.com/ebaymotors/FRAM...ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1227


I'm looking for something easy to mount and access, but thanks.

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Originally Posted by Mark Williams

Is the Norton filter easy to mount or does it require a special bracket?
If so, does anyone sell a bracket for it?


I bought the Norton filter head by itself and bought a $3.00 muffler clamp from the auto parts store.....this is for an OIF mind you, the down tubes on the dry frames are considerably smaller (1" - 2"?)....you should be able to find a U-clamp in that size.....

I also use the threaded bush sold by CNW (not shown) so I can use standard auto filters.....

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Including new oil lines, I think the entire outlay was less than $60.00....

HTH,

Steve


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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Woody1911a1] #238821
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Originally Posted by Woody1911a1
mick2 , i've had horrible luck communicating with MAP except by phone . their new www is a joke . most items if even listed are "call for price" poor descriptions and very few pictures of items .

if you've already ordered from them just call by phone and get it over with . if not just go to tri-core .

cheers , Woody


hi woody, i had already ordered and i got an email from garrett later that night i posted on here. they had been away for the weekend. everything in order now.
i have bought from tri-cor before and they were great to deal with, i just never saw the filter kit on there.

Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: mick2] #238843
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Blapper, I filter mine on the feed side but can't tell anything from the picture.I dont even see a motor.:)

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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: jugganaut] #238870
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Can't speak for any other brand but MAP. My TR6 with a MAP filter has been ridden more than 300 days a year for the past 2 years. The filter housing is dinged up from road debris and is starting to rust a bit in the marine environment, but has worked perfectly. Great product. Buy 6 filters at a time and they arrive within 3 days. No complaints whatsoever on the service or the product.

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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Florida TR6] #238881
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Tim,

The timing cover is modified and so oil goes from the pump, out through the filter then back into the oprv, followers and crankshaft. Hydraulic fittings and lines are used, and the filter (I chose a smaller and neater filter than the H101) is under the swing arm like the return line Norton.

The last thing that happens to the oil before the engine is that it is filtered.

Blapper redwine

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Same thing we do but with the map filter unit.Also run squirters to cool under crowns of pistons due to racing heat conditions.works like a champ.Your filter weighs as much as my whole unit.:)


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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: Mark Williams] #238920
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Originally Posted by Mark Williams
Originally Posted by jugganaut
How about a standard auto remote filter unit, then you won't have to bother with special threads or over priced filters...

http://cgi.eBay.com/ebaymotors/FRAM...ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_500wt_1227


I'm looking for something easy to mount and access, but thanks.


The '68 will allow you to fit the Norton filter under the LHS [toolbox] cover with a 2" exhaust clamp as shown above [for the OIF application], easy access and out of sight also.

You will of course need extra oil line and clamps and be sure that swingarm movement does not chafe the line between filter and tank.

The spin on filter offers the incidental benefit of being an oil cooler also.

If you fit one bush it up with the Colorado Norton Works bush or similar, I spent much time trying to identify the manufacturer of the Champion H101 without result, that filter appears to be a cheaper product manufactured by God knows who.

If you bush the Norton mount up to 3/4"AF /M20 you can cross reference off the Fleetguard LF3460 which is what I use.

Last edited by Tiger; 02/20/09 1:48 pm.

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Re: '68 T120 - MAP or Norton Remote Oil Filter? [Re: jugganaut] #239041
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Mark, here is a photo of a Trident-type oil filter on a 68 T120. It is hidden when the side cover is installed. I have to unscrew the aluminum mounting bracket and tip the filter housing outward to install the filter element, but it's a small effort for a pretty sanitary-looking installation. This particular filter kit is similar to the one sold by MAP -- perhaps a bit nicer looking but also more expensive. I believe British Cycle Supply has them if you are interested http://www.britcycle.com/Products/631Series001.htm

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