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#237360 - 02/12/09 7:16 pm 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options?
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I am looking for web references to 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint schemes, original brochure, advertisements. photographs etc.

Did 69 Bonnies only come in red, white and gold stripes or was there a different color option?

I may buy a 1969 Bonneville disaster basket case and want to see what it originally looked like.
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#237373 - 02/12/09 9:02 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Swan]
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Swan,
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#237378 - 02/12/09 10:34 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Swan]
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Hi,

This I know a fair bit about, as I've a '70 T150, which used the same colours.

Originally Posted By: Swan
Did 69 Bonnies only come in red, white and gold stripes or was there a different color option?

As the site given by Brimor shows, the original colour was known by Triumph as 'Olympic Flame' and is actually a dark orange.

However, beware the name 'Silver Sheen' - it isn't the same as the metallic used in the late 1950's and early 1960's. All the paints used in '69 are Candy Apple - the Silver is one of CA's standard 'ground coats' (CA's term) and covers the whole tank; the Olympic Flame (CA's 'Burnt Orange') is a translucent lacquer sprayed over the Silver ground coat, so what you actually see is a combination of the two.

Other things that the site given by Brimor doesn't get quite right are that Triumph also reversed the scheme, so the tank was mainly Silver with the scallops in Olympic Flame, and the lining colour was more often Gold than White, ime.

Originally Posted By: Swan
I may buy a 1969 Bonneville disaster basket case and want to see what it originally looked like.

From experience, I wouldn't bother. As a general thing, the Meriden paint shop didn't always paint exactly the same shade from day to day anyway, so the 'Burnt' bit of the 'Orange' can vary quite a bit in this case. wink Then you don't know under what conditions a given tank or 'guard has been stored, so you don't know how faded what you're looking at (you even thought it was red wink ). From previous posts on here, your best bet would appear to be Don Hutchinson, who has spent many years mixing modern paint to match original Triumph colours, which he matches from a collection of original unused painted parts; aiui he can either paint your bits or supply paint to your chosen sprayer.

Hth.

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#237391 - 02/12/09 11:33 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Stuart]
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Thanks guys for the information. I buy paint from Don H. and have seen the Rask paint layouts before. What I am looking for is a website or photos of the 1969 Triumph Brochure to see if the Bonneville came in a different color scheme other than the Olympic Flame and Silver Sheen. Is this the only color scheme for 69 Bonneville?

Wayne Hamilton has good reference photos for the 1969 Bonneville http://triumphmotorcycles.typepad.com/photos/1969_triumph_t120r_bonnev/index.html

I would love to find a 1969 brochure like the 1966 sales catalogue found on the GAMBA resource page. http://www.gabma.us/page2.htm

The one I am considering buying is a real snotter with black spraypainted tank, extended front forks, ran when parked, etc basket case but it is all there with matching numbers, unmolested frame and a tempting price.


Edited by Swan (02/12/09 11:50 pm)
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#237401 - 02/13/09 12:32 am Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Swan]
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"Other things that the site given by Brimor doesn't get quite right are that Triumph also reversed the scheme, so the tank was mainly Silver with the scallops in Olympic Flame, and the lining colour was more often Gold than White, ime."

While I cannot comment how Triumph painted the 1969 tank in the UK, in the U.S. it came in 3 variants as described in the diagram that first appeared in Vintage Bike some 10 odd years ago and is reprinted with permission.

1. The first few 1969 models looked like 1968 tanks but with Olympic Flame tank and a 2" silver sheen stripe down the middle.
2. Then they went with the scallop, but only on the top.
3. Finally they continued the scallop below the badge.

I am sure the tank would look nice with the colors reversed...
John
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#237404 - 02/13/09 12:52 am Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: John Healy]
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Thank you John for your wisdom as always.
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#237420 - 02/13/09 2:14 am Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Swan]
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Sw... Don has pictures he will send you depending on how you want to paint the tank.
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It is meant as an invitation to question not just what others say, but what I have to offer. I am no "god" as someone recently sarcastically referred to me on an other web site. The more I question, the more I have come to understand how little I know. That is why I question... it is meant as an invitation!

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#237445 - 02/13/09 4:58 am Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: John Healy]
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I`m confused the kenny dreer bike doesn`t look like is painted in the olympic flame colors also the bonneville script on the side cover looks like the one used in 1968. I have one that I took apart and I`m collecting info and parts to put it back the way it was.The guy that bought it new changed the tank colors to the 1970 and the gauges and proceeded to chrome the fork legs,motor mounts rear footpegs mounts,chain cover,brake leg and headlamp holders.I have a lot of work to do but would like to get the paint right. I have seen them in pictures with the burnt orange paint job and they look nice but the ones with the wine colored tanks with the silver scallop and white pinstriping look good too. I guy I know has one in that paint job with SS fenders. I like better the painted fenders.
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#237465 - 02/13/09 10:46 am Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: John Healy]
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Hi John,

Originally Posted By: John Healy
While I cannot comment how Triumph painted the 1969 tank in the UK,

Nope, UK&GE bikes are different again from US-market bikes; from Swan's location, I assumed he was asking about US-market bikes. My comments were based, at least in part, on being in particular places and knowing certain people when a great deal of unrestored 650 stuff was arriving back in GB from the US during the mid-to-late 1980's and early 1990's.

While the US brochure pictures I've seen do indeed show White lining, as you could tell from them and the pictures of the Dreer bike, it doesn't work visually on the Silver, which is probably why the Meriden paint shop changed to Gold lining (and I've also seen one or two lined Black).

Hth.

Regards,


Edited by Stuart (02/13/09 10:46 am)

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#237474 - 02/13/09 1:25 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Stuart]
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As an aside to paint issues, my used '78 Bonne when acquired had a distinctly Gold tank scallop.
The gold and black looked quite nice and so i decided to accentuate the theme with gold painted brake calipers, etc.
Only when the gas cap was removed there was evidence of the original candy-apple red that had faded out.
I do remember a dealership in west central part of my state that displayed new bikes in direct and glaring sunlight, more than likely thats where my bike originated.
The gent who sold me this claimed that he had assembled it personally from the crate and he gave me a brass Triumph belt buckle,dated 1978, and made in Taiwan, that was in the crate when delivered.
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#237476 - 02/13/09 1:52 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Swan]
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[quote=Swan]

I would love to find a 1969 brochure like the 1966 sales catalogue found on the GAMBA resource page. http://www.gabma.us/page2.htm


Try this site.

http://www.classicbike.biz/

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#237510 - 02/13/09 5:01 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Phil Beresford]
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Phil,

THANK YOU! Perfect, exactly what I was looking for.

Cheers, Swan
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#237526 - 02/13/09 6:14 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: Swan]
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#237691 - 02/14/09 3:31 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: JBMorris]
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#237745 - 02/14/09 7:10 pm Re: 1969 Triumph Bonneville paint options? [Re: JBMorris]
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I found this colors for the 1969. Hope it helps.
Juan



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