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Tank badge painting #235365
01/31/09 2:00 am
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Had to buy some new ones and they don't come painted. Anyone know a way for a non-artist to do it?


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: desco] #235371
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I screw them to a scrap of wood held in a vise so they are stable and lay Testor's model paint in with a very wet artist's paint brush. Don't try to stroke it to spread, dab it in quite thick and let it seek level as it flows out. If you miss or overfill an area, you can use a fingernail to scrape the excess off after it dries.


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: trumpetloon] #235444
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What Mark said......

I have had success painting small things will a large syringe....the key is to get the right consistency with the paint in the syringe.....practice a bit in a large area of the badge to get it right, then you can work into the small crevices/corners.....

Steve


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: JubeePrince] #235459
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Just like Mark, I also use and recommend Testors model paint. The white will take a few coats. Get some good detail brushes as well. That's what I prefer anyway!

beerchug


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: desco] #235748
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I have had very good luck using "One Shot" Sign Painters' Paint. It is just the right viscosity to use in a syringe so that the paint can seek its own level. The paint is available at many paint shops, artist supply shops, and suppliers like English Auto Paints.

Dave

Re: Tank badge painting [Re: DH] #235750
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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: desco] #235761
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As others have suggested, model paints work for me -- and I'm no artist, either.

It's not too difficult a job, unless the badges you're painting are from a 1957 through 1965 Triumph. If that's the case, then good luck painting those 10,000 individual little cells.

While we're on the subject of badges, I've asked this question before but never got an answer:
Does anyone know how they handled this job at the Triumph factory?

It doesn't seem likely that they'd pay someone to sit around all day and do this tedious work, but on the other hand there doesn't seem to be any easy way to spray them. Otherwise we wouldn't all be hunched over badges with our bottles of Testors.

Just wondering.


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: MI_Bonnie] #235782
02/02/09 7:24 pm
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The white part of the original paint on my 67 badges was sprayed with some overspray. Don't know how the black paint was done but probably with a brush by someone clever!

What I did was to mask off the whole top eyebrow part and the whole raised Triumph logo and then spray car shop white primer followed by an Alaskan white look-a-like top coat called Ford Diamond White (UK Ford colour). I then removed the masking and touched in any white part needed between the letters before priming and using black on the logo by brush again. It doesn't matter if the black paint goes on the raised polished chrome part because you can wipe it off straight away or scrape it off later with a craft knife. They ended up looking very smart. The paint hasn't dropped off after three years of vibration, hot sun or salty cold as it seems to stick to the textured parts well even though they are chromed too.
Dave

Re: Tank badge painting [Re: JBMorris] #235785
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This one-shot is the best you can buy for the job you are doing . My pin-striper used, and still does use this stuff,on all his pin-striping. And hes done everything in my yard. Hes excellent and not expensive, and no prima donna,What else could you ask for.And he stays busy and can do anything . grin

just my 2c worth! HTH


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: dave jones] #235786
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Dave j ...thats the way basically i did my 70 bonneville,My striper thought i was mad or something when he seen it.I sez NO .....i was short on funds and had a ton of time on my hands,but "RAY" i sez.......you do it next time. He goes by "EL VAGO" bigt over here, and hes been doing it for over 35 years.


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: Bob S] #235830
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I already bought the Testors, so where do I find a Syringe?
I don't know any junkies.


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1972 T120RV
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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: desco] #235835
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"I already bought the Testors, so where do I find a Syringe?"

any place that sells west systems epoxy , like a marine store . they sell them in a pk of 2 for like $3 .

Re: Tank badge painting [Re: Woody1911a1] #235837
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I live 342 miles from the ocean in the middle of the desert. Are there any other places to get a syringe?

How did they do this at the factory? I have been carrying these badges around for over a year. In and out of every kind of shop. I've called painters, talked to artists,anyone who would listen.
Dumb looks are still free.


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: desco] #235849
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Can't say about syringes but artist's brushes can be had in various sizes and grades at Wally World, Craft stores like Michael's or HD Moore, or hobby stores which sell model supplies (planes, trains or automobiles!). Some thriving metropoli even have real art supply houses. Get a few brushes and have at it. If you mess up a bit of lacquer thinner (hardware store) will clean em off for another attempt. It ain't fine furniture finishing, or even like painting your tank.... try something and if that fails try something else.


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: trumpetloon] #235855
02/03/09 7:27 am
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You guys all work too hard! I shu-shu can spray the badges then wipe the overspray off with a cloth and mineral spirits. Mostly I've done the grill badges from the dates listed above. the background color changed from year to year and they used gold, white and black rotating them from the background to the foreground. By the way, the gold used on Triumph tank badges was gold color, not metallic gold as you see on so may badges. It was basically a solid ochre color. Not pretty. After I paint the background and its completely dried, then I brush in the Triumph logo with the appropriate color with a brush. fine touchup is done with an x-acto knife or a fine brush. I'm almost certain that the factory used masks to paint their badges very quickly. Factory works can't be hand brushing things like badges...too time consuming.
Bill

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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: HawaiianTiger] #235858
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Try your local Veterinarian for the syringe - that's where I get all mine.

Blapper redwine

Re: Tank badge painting [Re: Blapper] #235924
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Where are you shootin that syringe............blap???????I HOPE ITS ON THE BIKE.jus kiddin ya. Man we are making a large deal on this badge painting....aren't we??? laughing


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: desco] #235956
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I also painted my badges using Testors model paint. They turned out reasonably well, though the color's not a perfect match for the body color.

As for syringes, you can get them from Petco. They sell them for feeding small animals. For example: http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.aspx?sku=987280


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: Chris Kelly] #235980
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Fizzy cans generally fail to provide the almost cloissonne shininess I have seen on (purported) NOS badges, so I have settled on heavily applied model enamels. No, the white is not exactly as original without tedious tinting, but the end result is acceptable, and not so labor intensive as to be discarded for another way. As with any endeavour, your result may vary but do please experiment... something you try WILL satisfy your desire!


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Re: Tank badge painting [Re: trumpetloon] #235994
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Puddle it in with a modelers brush and push or drip the small areas with a round toothpick. Get it in there thick, make it flow with a hair dryer. Let dry and then bake it in the oven at 125 for about 2 days. I use Testors....

Don in Nipomo


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