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Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211890
08/28/07 2:57 pm
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Hi Folks-
Lots of info on applying varnish transfers out there- thought I would throw this out from recent experience.
69 Commando fastback-the only correct transfers (8-1/2") I could find for the side panel/oil tank are the varnish type.

Seperate cover paper from tissue carrier paper.
Paintbrush application of Minwax high gloss fast drying polyurethane varnish to the colored side of the transfer. (reverse image side). Make sure you get clear out to the edges without overlapping too much, but if you don't get the varnish clear out the image will stick to the paper and not the side cover. Yep, I did this, and had to touch up a small area of the black outline with a super fine Sharpie---DOH!
Go clean your brush, in this time the varnish tacked up really nice.
Apply to the panel that you've pre-cleaned with wax and grease remover, smooth it with your fingers gently.
While the tissue paper is still on, rub from center out with a soft cloth to further smooth and remove air bubbles.
Give it a bit to stick well, I broke for a smoke, about 10 minutes or less.
Wet a towel and dab the image, trying not to rub side to side. get the tissue paper over the image nice and wet.
Carefully peel off the tissue paper. If it tries to grab, dab it a bit more with the wet towel.
Carefully wipe off any water, etc., but don't get too close to the image.
Repeat for the other side, if applicable.
Walk away for a day or so to be certain it is well cured.
Varnish, or in my case, clear coat over the entire panel.
You're done.
This is basically a re-hash of instructions that are out there, but with specific brand of varnish.
Worked well for me, but I'm with Gunk- unless I'm going for the absolute, A-R resto I much prefer vinyl, just couldn't find the right transfer for the early Commando. Last one I did (70 Fastback) I paid a sign guy to apply the varnish transfers, turns out it wasn't necessary, just took patience and had to overcome the fear of doing it.

HTH

Mike
Kansas, America
Varnish transfer virgin no more.

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Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211891
08/28/07 3:24 pm
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Yay, good description.
It's actually interesting that water-slide and Duplex (varnish transfer) decals are made exactly the same way. The difference is the duplex is printed backwards so you see the mirror image on the paper. Otherwise, the same process is used to produce them. Your plastic model decals could be applied with varnish if you wanted, but they would be backward.

One more tip to add to Mike's explanation, it is quite important to remove the animal hide glue and gum arabic that remains behind after soking the paper off or it could cause your decal to crack while the varnish is still drying.

Gunk


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Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211892
08/28/07 5:01 pm
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Hey Gunk--------------What is the best available decal, [which type]to use for these bikes????bob s


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Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211893
08/28/07 6:25 pm
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I think it's fair to say that for decals, there are a lot of high quality decals and transfers available, from a huge number of suppliers.
To get the "right" transfers;ie the correct style, colour, size, type etc. there are no tighter @nal retentives than the fellows at BSAOC.
The membership fee is a big turnoff for me, so I've never browsed further than the pages that show what they have.
But I get the feeling that they are dedicated to historical accuracy and high quality, and based on the original documents when available.
Too bad they don't want to share this information freely like the web was intended for. Then if I got some value from it and wanted to support it I could donate some cash.

BSA information should belong to the ages, not be held hostage by the dumper divers who grabbed it before it went to the incinerator.

Gunk


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Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211894
08/28/07 7:21 pm
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Is that the unvarnished opinion, Mr Gunk? laugh

Mike
Kansas, America

Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211895
08/29/07 1:22 am
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Just an old hippy having a bad day.

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Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211896
08/29/07 2:47 pm
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Well, us freeze-dried old hippys have to stick together. bigt
Thanks for your insights-very informative!

Mike
Kansas, America

Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211897
08/31/07 4:03 am
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interesting article on make yer own decals:

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Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211898
09/06/07 8:55 pm
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It gets windy here sometimes
elderrocker,
Labor Day I followed your description and had great success with the varnish decals on the B25.
That was the most stress I had in restoring this bike.
Sweating bullets thinking how I was about to ruin the paint job I just paid for!
Thanks for your post. bigt
Mike


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Re: Varnish transfer-How I did it. #211899
09/07/07 8:57 pm
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Hey Mike-
Glad it went well! I have always been left a bit short by the instructions I've read on applying them, thus the post. I understand how you felt during the application-- pucker factor was high, and I threw the paint on the Commando myself! laughing Really makes you appreciate the newer vinyl, eh?

Mike
Kansas, America


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