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Ultimate Triton? #199588
03/04/08 12:55 am
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Ok, so I have always wanted a Triton. I am seriously thinking about starting to collect parts for one. I have a specific look I have in mind (AAlloy tank, tank strap, swept back pipes, short Road Holders, big tank...

What are your opinions on bits to be put on your ultimate Triton? I hope to glean some good ideas off of you guys :bigt:


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199589
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If that isn't a subject to light a fire I don't know what is. Tritons are a bit like deuce roadsters. They all have the basic bits and pieces. You have to make it your own within well defined parameters i.e. featherbed frame, Triumph motor. My personal preference would be a wideline and pre-unit 650(hooked up to an AMC box). Throw in a Manx seat, Manx 5 gal. tank to complete the basic look. If you ave cash to throw away you can contact Unity Equipe in Manchester, England. The son of a friend recently got in touchwith them for a Manx replica rolling chassis. He was quoted $16,000 for a roller. Buteven if yu have the cash for such a venture the idea is to build it yourself. I'm sure there will be lots of people here to give you lots of ideas.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199590
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Thanks..yep that is what I am looking for...ideas. laugh


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199591
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Quote
Originally posted by Phatt Bob:
Don't start me on this, this is my own personal bandwagon.....aaargh!!!

OK here we go.....There's no such thing as the ultimate Triton, this is a myth put around by magazines who want to sell copy, snd is very subjective depending upon point of view.

If you examine the ethos of the Triton, it was supposed to go, handle and stop better than anything else on the road. End of....
Ok,let me rephrase it...."What are some options that people have added to their Tritons that they are happy with either performance wise, asthetically..etc..."

Brakes, Forks, rear shocks, clip-ons, Engine mods...etc..

I know every Triton is an individual statement, no 2 are alike, there is no "ultimate" for everyone. My orginal thread title was meant to glean info from your "Ultimate" Triton...just picking the brains of the men and women in the know.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199592
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I think that I would put things like Ohlins on the rear, and at least one disc brake somewhere in the mix. Manx tank. I might have the seat reupolstered to accommodate a gel cushion for comfort.

Now you've got me thinking of bikes instead of working this morning....


Brian
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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199593
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A collection of trick bits doesn't make a good bike. Every deviation from standard Triumph and Norton brings a need for fettling and scope for problems. Go too radical all at once and you might never get a usable bike on the road.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199594
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I'm considering making a Triton with a '53 6T and a '57 Wideline. Am I out of my mind? I suppose I could upgrade the top end to 9-bolt dual carb, 750 etc., down the road right? Will the bottom end handle all that okay with slightly warm cams?


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199595
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Fantasy triton
Wide line frame.
Central alloy oil tank
Disc front end, maybe Ducati,
Flanged Alloy rims
Inyer face rocket goldie style clocks
Steel fork shrouds
Goldie type hlamp brackets
Pre unit motor with Norton box and clutch
Manx seat
Manx rear guard
Box section swingarm
Magneto with Yellow and Black HT leads
twin GP carbs, or Dell Ortos
Clip ons with Italian levers and QA throttle.
Dream on
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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199596
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Maybe i'm being slightly bias! :rolleyes:
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Just worked out i have 850cc barrels on it aswell laugh

Re: Ultimate Triton? #199597
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Quote
Originally posted by hh:
I'm considering making a Triton with a '53 6T and a '57 Wideline. Am I out of my mind? I suppose I could upgrade the top end to 9-bolt dual carb, 750 etc., down the road right? Will the bottom end handle all that okay with slightly warm cams?
A 53 has small bearing crank, I think. If the engine is in reasonable condition, consider leaving it standard. It might not feel that slow.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199598
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Thanks TT, do you have an opinion on what a '53 6T engine in running condition is worth, mostly complete with primary and box (which I'll probably not use.) It came from a chopper (with skulls painted on it, which makes me a little scared) and has been sitting with the timing and rocker covers off, so it needs a teardown regardless, but I'm interested in opinions.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199599
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well what is your preference? are you a period correct nut? and if so what years? do you want modern features? (yuk!)

whats your budget? and why not another type of special? NORBSA,manx goldstar,norvelo?

loads of questions to be run through,motorcycle mechanics and 3 wheeler magazines are a good start and can be had cheap for inspiration,period speed part reviews and info etc.


my personal favorites

are either the specials built by the kids ie: mostly stock parts and appearence with a few special bits from chuck,deeprose,ian kennedy,tickle,dow,dunstall etc.thrown in


or the full on race bikes like the dresda race machines with oldani,fontanna brakes and all the other pukka go fast bits


either way just go for it! if your crafty with searching and bartering youll be shcoked at what you can come up with even on a shoestring budget


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199600
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As you can see you are getting the full spectrum. I wish I knew how to take a photo from one forum and post it in another. But if you go to caferacer.ca you'll find a gorgeous Aussie Triton. It will depend on what you want and how big your budget is. I'm on Norcal's side. I think Tritons should have an edge to them. We should all be as lucky as Dommiracer and come up with a Yam 4LS. About 35 years ago I built this Triton. I didn't have any money and most of the bits were traded for. I think the total investment was around $125. Rough but it was built with what I had. Build it and you won't regret it. You may never be done but thats also part of the deal. [Linked Image][/IMG]


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199601
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Ok i've seen acouple of you here has chosen a wideline featherbed over the slimline. What are your reason's, period styling?

Mark

Re: Ultimate Triton? #199602
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Quote
Originally posted by hh:
Thanks TT, do you have an opinion on what a '53 6T engine in running condition is worth, mostly complete with primary and box (which I'll probably not use.) It came from a chopper (with skulls painted on it, which makes me a little scared) and has been sitting with the timing and rocker covers off, so it needs a teardown regardless, but I'm interested in opinions.
Sorry- prices are a mystery to me, but eBay might give a clue what people are prepared to bid for parts.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199603
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Widelines just look better.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199604
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holy cr@P!!!! bill,that triton is the BUISINESS!!!


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199606
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Maybe this would be good starting point? Dave Degens '65 Barcelona 24 hour winning Triton. [Linked Image][/IMG]


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199607
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An alternative solution for your consideration....

[Linked Image]

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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199608
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Or a reason why ou should build a period correct Triton. Woolworths pic 'n mix doesn't really [Linked Image][/IMG] work.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199609
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Good point well made NN.

That's GOTTA be work in progress...A decent consistent paint scheme would bring it's game up a lot!

Bob


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199610
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I understand its Stevie Wonder's project bike.


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199612
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I think NN's point there is that a collection of trick bits a great bike do not make. This is one of my peeves. It seems a lot of people are not able to visualize a finished product from the bits they have decided to use. My suggestion is, if you don't have the ability, find a friend with a bit of an artsy side to sketch up some visuals. Why would you spend thousands of dollars building a custom without any clue to what it will look like?

Of course, you could get really radical and put a norton motor in a featherbed frame....


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199613
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Thats about my point alright. That and to teach everyone that Tritons are supposed to be built like Tritons. A Norton in a featherbed? Whoda thunk?


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Re: Ultimate Triton? #199614
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I guess that's my point too. Tritons don't have to be built like Tritons.

We'll just have to agree to differ on that one!

Cheers

Bob


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