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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141079
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Just added a couple of photos to my previous post above of 1970 windtone horns by clearhooter fitted to UK T120


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141080
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The parts number I quoted are from the 1971 T150 parts book and appear to be the same horns as shown in the Service Bulletin posted by JinKC. Since I last posted I have spoken with my friend (who was the original selling dealer and uncrated my bike when new) Again he stated that none of the 70's he had were with the doomed horns all came thru with the horns that look like the service bulletin ones. Further he stated they were daul tone horns(one hi one lo note. The TR6 Lucas horn is a monotone). I believe Clear Hooters were supplied to Triumph by Miller not Lucas.
While I have the book you mention my opinion is based on owning my 70 for 30 years. It was purchased as a more or less rideable basket case.


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Click here, Taff the Horns , scroll down to bottom of page.

Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141082
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Any excuse to post a picture

These are the horns fitted to my 70 Bonnie. Two previous owners before me and the last one said they were fitted from new. Mine is registered as Feb 71, with a JD number. (August)



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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141083
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Hello Seamus,
I take it that your model is a uk version. Does your engine number stamp on the crankcase contain the model number?


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141084
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The Bonnie is a UK bike. Model T120. 1st owner had it till 1984, then sold it to a friend. Then I got it. Was originally just going to tidy it up, but you know how these things take on a life of their own, so a bit of time and a fair bit of cash later, I am hoping to have it finished in the next couple of weeks.

This is as far as I have got



Had a delivery of parts today so can get some more done
Seamus

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That looks nice Seamus. The reason I asked about the engine stamp was because mine hasn't got the model number although it has the triumph stampings. I had it verified that it started life as a T120 delivered to Scotland but the registrar stated that it was unusual not to have the model number stamped on it. As yours sounds a contemporary model, I wondered if yours has the model number stamped next to the engine number? Just curious.
Mike


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141086
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Thanks Kadutz. I found the part numbers in a 1971 parts book as stated. Don't know yet if the actual parts are still available. There is no doubt not all bonnevilles left the factory with the domed windtones, then there are those that were removed by the dealers. Accordingly , either set up would still be "correct".
Incidently, if you look closely at the horn in the left in the Triumph bulletin posted by J in KC you will notice the oblong trumpet ala Windtone

Bazz

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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141087
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Quote:
Originally posted by BAZZ:
Thanks Kadutz. I found the part numbers in a 1971 parts book as stated. Don't know yet if the actual parts are still available. There is no doubt not all bonnevilles left the factory with the domed windtones, then there are those that were removed by the dealers. Accordingly , either set up would still be "correct".
Incidently, if you look closely at the horn in the left in the Triumph bulletin posted by J in KC you will notice the oblong trumpet ala Windtone
Or look at the photos in my previous post. Also look at the clearhooter embossing on the rear of the horn. (not Lucas)

Mike


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141088
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Mike, the embossed lettering under "Clearhooter", what does that read?

Thanks
Bazz


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141089
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I would think the 60-2623/4 horns would be easier to find as the were used on T150's up to the introduction of the T160. You are correct the service bulletin appears to show both horns. Also note the horns pictured in Seamus's post. These are clear hooters note the mirror image mountings of the electrical connections. Also if you look very closely at the picture you cited on page 107 note the routing of the wires I really doubt that bike has TR6 horns.
All 3 bikes shown in this thread a very very nice.
Seamus I have never seen uncoated (painted) brackets on the horns. Are these replacement items?


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141090
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I was not sure the brackets shoiuld be painted or not. Mine looked like thay had a zinc coating, so I had them re zinc plated. I guess they should be black. I nearly painted them too

Cheers

Seamus

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Quote:
Originally posted by twinspin:
That looks nice Seamus. The reason I asked about the engine stamp was because mine hasn't got the model number although it has the triumph stampings. I had it verified that it started life as a T120 delivered to Scotland but the registrar stated that it was unusual not to have the model number stamped on it. As yours sounds a contemporary model, I wondered if yours has the model number stamped next to the engine number? Just curious.
Mike
No serial number on the engine? 99.9% sure that's a replacement engine case.

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Quote:
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Mike, the embossed lettering under "Clearhooter", what does that read?
It reads 'ENGLAND'.

Mike


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141093
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Quote:
Originally posted by swooshdave:
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No serial number on the engine? 99.9% sure that's a replacement engine case.
The engine number is there and it matches the frame it just doesn't state the model No i.e T120. Just wondered if that was typical for a UK T120 at that time


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141094
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Had a recheck of mine and the engine number is stamped over the Triumph logos, with T120 underneath.

Seamus

Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141095
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Hi,

Quote:
Originally posted by KADUTZ:
what you need to be correct for a T120R ED bike are horns D2623(Clear hooter HF80-low note
and D2624(Clearhooter HF-80 high note) I sincerley doubt your bike came with 60-2256/7 horns
Having researched the subject for my '70 T150 resto, I couldn't be that sure:-

1. all '70 T150's were built in just two months -calendar April & May 1970 ('DD' and 'ED' date codes);

2. '70 T150's use many more of *exactly the same* ancillary parts (e.g. rear light mounting, grabrail, horns) as contemporary 650 twins than '69 T150's, which often use only similar-looking ancillary parts;

3. I have contemporary photographs of '70 T150's with D2256/7 horns ...

Possibly a May 1970-built T120 was fitted with different horns to a May 1970-built T150 ... but possibly it wasn't?

Quote:
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in a 70 650 parts book just as you wont find the part numbers the tailite extender used on 70 US Triumphs in that book.
But you will certainly in the last (3rd) edition of the '70 T150 book, published in January 1970.

Quote:
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And what about the lifting rail 83-1571 is it all chrome or black and chrome two piece item?
I believe some early 70's had all chrome items and later had the black and chrome items.
Quote:
Originally posted by BAZZ:
I agree that none of these change overs are referenced in the parts books.
Again, certainly the aforementioned edition of the T150 parts book has it (as F11571) and, now you mention it, the aforementioned contemporary photos. back this up.

Quote:
Originally posted by Seamus:
Mine is registered as Feb 71, with a JD number. (August)
Makes it one of the last built in the '70 season. It wasn't at all unusual for bikes built towards the end of a given season to be fitted with parts ready for the start of the new season (likewise, bikes built during the early part of a season were often fitted with parts remaining from the previous season).

And, despite having read that bit of Seamus' post, don't suppose it'll stop more posts of 'the season ran from August to July' ... :rolleyes:

Hth.

Regards,

Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141096
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those are not the the same ones fited to Triumphs. check your pm's later gonna send you a note.
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I know they are not the right ones. Hey, I relocated my single from Walridge Motors after Hawaii Tiger made fun of it. Now it is not obtrusive. It makes a noise when needed and does not weigh a ton. I took the Lucas horns off my ACE as they were as big as a house and weighed 10 lbs I think it was. Could probably put them on the bike. However, the bike already carries a substantial load and I don't want to stress it any more.

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Here is an original, I think. Funny how F12714 brackets are mounted. One on the inside and one on the outside. (just like J in KC pic) Anyway, this is going on BD41XXX

KADUTZ, is this like yours?


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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141101
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Hi Rick,

They look exactly the same aas the horns on My Bonnie. (picture above)

Seamus

PS have you got a picture of the relay mounting bracket?

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Hi Seamus,

Just out of curiosity what is the full serial number of your JD numbered Bonneville? I only ask because I also have one with an August 1970 serial number (JD58145) and would like to see how they compare.

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Re: Clearhooter Horns-1970 T120R #141103
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Hi Bruce

Mine is 58938. Slightly later than yours.

Cheers

Seamus

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