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#1211 - 03/09/05 7:23 pm What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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I'm looking for input on the correct colour of the early post-war tank badges - the so-called "square" winged badges that were used up until 1952 I think. I have two types - one is chromed with the letters BSA in blue enamel and the others are bronze coloured with red BSA lettering. I bought the badges for a 1946 C11 project and suspect that the correct colour should be the blue jobs. Can anyone confirm this? If so, what are the bronze and red items off?


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#1212 - 03/09/05 10:33 pm Re: What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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Could be blue but I don't recall seeing any of those on C11s when I worked in a bike wreckers in Aus in the early '70s, and lots of C11s ended their one piece days there. Could depend on destination market of the time.
Mine was a WC11 (1940) and had the red badges but may have been altered by previous owners, as could have been any of them.

#1213 - 03/10/05 3:26 am Re: What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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Speak of the devil that may prove the memory fallible:
C11 on ebay au


Doesn't look natural to me though..

#1214 - 03/10/05 5:56 am Re: What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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Thanks RP. Interesting pic. I reckon that the unnatural look is a result of incorrect tank colour. Tank was chromed with coloured side and top panels - usually matt silver with black dual pinstripe surround or in the case of the "de-luxe" model pale blue with gold pinstripes. The deluxe model also sported chrome fork seal holders as indicated in the picture. But painted black spokes and wheels would indicate an early standard model. Kickstart is off a 4-speed box - early models had a 3-speed. Box looks to be 4-speed as well. Plunger I see, which came in in 1951. I don't see a speedo in the tank which indicates a 1953 job (54 went to C11G). Although the badges changed in 52 or 53 I think. So not an historically correct machine, but what the heck, it seems to be all there and probably ridable which is all that really matters!


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#1215 - 03/10/05 6:01 am Re: What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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Just checked some documentation. '52 & '53 had the unusual BSA big winged chrome badges that were peculiar to those two years. '53 C11 came in maroon or black painted parts - but tank was still chromed as were the wheels.


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#1216 - 03/10/05 7:05 am Re: What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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That's interesting, my '40 model with teles and rigid rear had a tank speedo hole, didn't occur to me that it might be the wrong tank.
A lot of them were bitsas, this one on ebay might make you rub your eyes and look again. 5-speed box!


Not one of the C11s that came into the wreckers had a dynamo chain. Very rare part, I eventually got a NOS one from a push-bike dealer who had a set of new C11 mudguards which I spotted through his back room door.

#1217 - 03/10/05 1:55 pm Re: What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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That is possibly the most interesting application that I've seen for this motor! Bottom end looks like C11, but top end? B25 perhaps? Hmmm.... dynamo chains do seem do be difficult to come by. As well as chainguards. Still looking for a rigid C11 chainguard. Another bit that I've never come across (& need) id the assembly that hold the speedo in tank in place. FYI, the C11 had girder forks which housed the speedo until April 1946, when teles were fitted and the speedo moved to the tank. Prior to this the oil tank was housed in the fuel tank as well - although this shifted to under the saddle in late '45. The hole that you had in your tank may have been the oil filler hole? There were two caps on the 1940 tank. Fascinating little machines. I picked my '46 C11 up bundled with a B31 that I wanted. Subsequently picked up a '48 model for spares and a '55 C11G landed up in my garage as well.... BTW, how did you insert the photograph into the message? I can't seem to get it right. Do you still have your machine?


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#1218 - 03/10/05 9:51 pm Re: What are the correct colours for the early post-war BSA tank badges?  
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"C12 FRAME AND FORKS FIVE SPEED TRIUMPH GEARBOX WITH TRIUMPH 650 CLUTCH.------------ BC11G CRANKCASES WITH 1 PIECE CRANK , TRIUMPH DAYTONA BIG END, END FED - NEEDLE ROLLER BEARINGS ON TIMING SIDE.------------- RESHAPED C/25 BARREL WITH PORTED B/25SS HEAD.-------- A65 SHORTENED PUSHRODS"

I got my C11 around 1970 and rode it around the bush tracks for a couple of years running off the battery which I'd charge over night with a model train transformer set on 12 volts. Only first and third gears in the 3-speed box, it was my first proper bike but was very bare. Eventually the timing side bush went and finding another case the same, with the smoother blending-in breather molding, proved impossible. That's why I'm sure it was a W year, (engine only it seems) all the others had the more abrupt breather protrusion. Anyway I found all the missing bits like chainguard and speedo and rebuilt it for the road, put it in the showroom and it sold within a few days. That half paid for the first and only B25T that came into the wreckers, around '73. I had to have it of course.

Many endearing memories of the C11, like cutting new clutch corks every few weeks, due to the missing second gear and very steep hills. And I loved those front forks, 20 inch wheels and in-built stubbie-holder in the tank smile

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