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1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110248
02/16/07 10:39 pm
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Hello everyone -

I need a pair of horns for my 1969 Triumph T120 - see http://bonneville.typepad.com for more details.

The relevant part numbers are: 60-1900 (right-hand-horn) and 60-1901 (left-hand).

I realise these are going to be as rare as rocking horse manure, but does anyone know where I can get some originals, how much I can expect to pay, and any suggestions for a cheap but effective alternative in the meantime?

I'm based in the UK, so would prefer to source domestically, but am willing to purchase worldwide.

Thanks in advance,

JT

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Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110249
02/18/07 4:18 am
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Johann,

I see them come up on eBay occasionally, but usually go for a pretty price. British Only here in the US lists them as in stock for approximately $200.00 US plus a $100.00 core charge. After looking at your website and seeing how much you have paid so far in your rebuild, those prices seem reasonable!!!! laugh

Good luck with your search and your project. I'll watch your progress on the site.


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1960 Triumph T100A
1965 Trophy TR6SR
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Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110250
02/19/07 10:34 pm
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Thanks for the advice Lit67 - I'm starting to wonder whether it was a wise idea on my part to list the cost of my rebuild - it certainly is starting to mount up! Everything seems cheaper in the US, but maybe that's due to favo(u)rable (from a UK point of view) exchange rates. As a newbie, I'm starting from scratch. The road is long and hard, but enjoyable although occasionally frustrating. :-)

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110251
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JT,

British Only doesn't have the horns. I tried them.

I also have a '69 Bonnie and have been looking for the Clear Hooter Windtones, as specified for the mid year 1969 models. I found a pair at a swap meet this weekend for my bike. I assume the same horns were used here in the US and in the UK.

eBay is probably your best bet if you can't find them in the UK.

Your project looks exciting and challenging. Good luck.


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Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110252
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Clearhooters are very rare, BUT, the factory also ran out of them for a while, so it was not unusual to see 69 or 70s bikes fitted with the alternative Lucas product. These were just very simple round, black two-tones. They don't sound as good, but they are authentic. You can see what they look like on my bike on 'pics of Triumphs thread'.

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110253
02/27/07 5:26 pm
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Hi Johann,

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Originally posted by Johann T:
I realise these are going to be as rare as rocking horse manure,
does anyone know where I can get some originals,
Ime, I'd say rocking horse manure is far more common than *working* originals of these. I pursued a pair for my 1970 T150 before, firstly, talking to Taff The Horns (www.taffthehorns.com) and discovering that the originals have design fault that meant that most were replaced under warranty by Triumph nearly 40 years ago and, secondly, because of the aformentioned fault, that 1970 T150's were fitted with the contemporary BSA horns. bigt

Quote:
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does anyone know where I can get some originals,
No, but, fwiw, Burton Bike Bits have brand-new replicas (www.burtonbikebits.net/clearhooter_horns.htm). However, firstly here, bear in mind that the prices are per horn; secondly here, thus you should be sitting down when you read their prices and, thirdly here, the prices don't include Gordon's Cut (aka VAT). Also, were I at all interested in a pair of these, I'd be inclined to get the details of the original design fault from Taff, then ensure that BBB hadn't replicated that bit. wink

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Originally posted by Johann T:
how much I can expect to pay,
By definition, if they're on Fleebay, or similar, it's whatever a buyer's willing to pay. You may be lucky (I was with the BSA horns) but I suggest that Mick at BBB didn't have those replicas made for that price without being pretty sure he'd sell 'em.

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Originally posted by Johann T:
any suggestions for a cheap but effective alternative
Fiamms (http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/horns/horns.html and scroll down to 'Twin horns'). If you don't want red covers, they're also available in chrome and, I believe, all black, if not from VWP.

Hth.

Regards,

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110254
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Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110255
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It's a ridiculously high starting bid. $200 maybe but not 200, so at the moment I'm going to watch - I just had my engine rebuilt and my wallet is smarting!

It will be interesting to see how much they go for.

Has else got a view on these horns? In the past I've seen horns advertised as being from a Bonneville but on closer inspection it turned out that they weren't.

JohannT

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110256
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Johann - see my note above - clearhooters weren't the only ones fitted to that year.

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110257
03/09/07 2:32 pm
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Call Don Hutchinson... He Has reproductions that are spot on for 1969's.
781-245-9663

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110258
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Johann - link to Don Hutchinson web site here: http://www.triumphman.com/message.html

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110259
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Hi Johann,

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Errrm ... I hate to rain on the parade but these are not correct/original, even for '70, and thus not worth anything like 200.

At the risk of telling you what you know already:-

1. As it says in the address, these are Windtones (domed cover), not Clearhooters (near-square-section cover when viewed from the side), and it was Clearhooters that Triumph fitted to '69 bikes, while BSA fitted Windtones.

2. As I said in my earlier post, aiui from Taff The Horns, Clearhooters had a design fault that caused most to be replaced under warranty by Triumph, with Windtones, and Windtones are what Triumph fitted to 1970 bikes (despite what it says in all/most of the 1970 Triumph parts books :rolleyes: ).

However, those on Fleabay aren't original BSA/Triumph Windtones. The giveaway is the 'D'-shaped trumpet opening - BSA/Triumph ones had a rectangular opening. Those with 'D'-shaped openings are common-or-garden car ones - I picked up an unrestored but working one for 3 in the jumble at a local traction engine/commercials/car/bike show summer before last.

Fwiw, possibly the reason why the correct Windtones had rectangular trumpet openings is, on the Rocket 3 (the triples mount one horn each side above the passenger footrests), a 'D'-shaped trumpet gets clouted by the chainguard during rear suspension movement.

Hth.

Regards,

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110260
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Hi Johann,

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Originally posted by Johann T:
any suggestions for a cheap but effective alternative in the meantime?
www.triplesonline.com/forum/getmsg.asp?53055

This thread's about some Nikko horns that, apparently, are a passable imitation for the Clearhooters, but at a fraction of the cost.

If the link won't take you to the TOL Forum thread, if you register with the site and use the Advanced Search with the keywords 'Alternative Horns', that should find the thread. Also, the thread mentions pictures in the site's Gallery and registering will allow you to view these.

Hth.

Regards,

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110261
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Is this the post ?

I had mentioned in an earlier post that dual Nikko high/low horns are an inexpensive replacement that bolt right up in place of the clearhooters. The Nikko part number is YPD - 1400 - 12. I have a picture of this type of horn in the gallery. I saw a set at Nebraska Motorcycle Parts, Inc. in Omaha, Nebraska. Their part number on the box is D120-0127. They told me they mail-order world wide, and their phone number is (402) 592-1780. No website or email, but they are good people, and have been around for years. Can't help but think that other bike shops have or can get these. The cost at NMP was $32.40. Not a bad deal considering both the looks and the quality.

Re: 1969 Bonneville T120 horns #110262
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Stuart. Thanks, some good advice there. I just spotted those horns on eBay, and assumed they were correct (never having seen a pair in the flesh). I was staggered at the price being asked - bet they don't sell!


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