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how original is my T100 #103040
10/08/06 4:52 pm
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Hi there - I recently bought what I think is a 1960 T100a.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/andy120t/TriumphT100a.jpg

I think it looks fab and I'm not planning to change it apart from fitting knobbly tyres - but I am interested in how it would have left the factory.

I think the exhausts have been changed for high-level ones.

It appears that on both sides of the rear frame loop / halfway between the shocks and the tail-light some brackets have been removed - would these have been mounts for a bath-tub? If so, does that mean that the headlamp and front mudguards are also wrong?(in case it's not clear from the picture the bike now wears sidepanels).

Also should the rear forks be shrouded?

Any thoughts / piccies of an original spec. one would be interesting.
thanks!


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Re: how original is my T100 #103041
10/08/06 5:33 pm
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The T100a was a black and silver (or was it white?) machine with full bath tubs, a big front mudguard, a headlamp nacelle with metal fork shrouds, low pipes (siamese?) plus the shrouded shocks. The early version also had ET ignition.

I wouldn't worry too much because you have a smart machine there and the 500 Triumph is a great machine! You can always buy bits gradually when you see them, which is what I did for my '67 650, or leave as is.
Dave

Re: how original is my T100 #103042
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The motor would have a distributor and be stamped T100A, and the brackets on the frame loop would have been for the bathtub, it's no big deal, they were changed back in the 60's as the rockers never wanted the extra tinware as they strove to make their bikes look like bonnie's.

put this into the search facility... More tales from the back yard .... and you will see all about my old T100A.

Kev.


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Re: how original is my T100 #103043
10/08/06 8:22 pm
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The bike looks sweet just the way it is. I love the high pipes.
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Re: how original is my T100 #103044
10/08/06 8:55 pm
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Original or not, that's a fine looking bike. Congratulations clap .


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Re: how original is my T100 #103045
10/08/06 11:03 pm
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Nothing is correct wink But I really like it's look... Wow what a nice bike... That was my first triumph 1959 t100a... same thing.. no bathtub, no nacelle... just real clean..

Don't change a thing, because it looks nice. and will be real expensive to get all the parts...

Jack


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Re: how original is my T100 #103046
10/09/06 12:18 am
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What a great Bike! I did not restore my T100A back to original because I too didn't like the bathtub look. I would keep yours as is. It looks great. A picture of what a T100A looks like is shown below. The second link is my bike. Good luck and have fun!

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/l...mgAnch=imgAnch1

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/l...mgAnch=imgAnch4


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Re: how original is my T100 #103047
10/09/06 7:59 am
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Thanks for the responses - it's interesting to see how much has been taken off my bike - I've certainly got no desire to return it to original..maybe just some shrouds for the rear forks when the time comes.

Lit67 & Kev - your bikes both look fab.


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Re: how original is my T100 #103048
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From a practical point of view, it looks to make sense to junk the bathtubs and to a lesser extent the nacelles...do they serve any practical purpose or are they purely styling devices ?

I do think that the nacelle and to a lesser extent the bathtub do look pretty but suspect get in the way of everyday riding practicalities


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Re: how original is my T100 #103049
10/09/06 11:38 pm
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As I said above, the bike looks great..

But the bathtub and nacelle is a big evolution period of the Triumph motorcycle. I really like the bathtub and nacelle. No real purpose of each except for design... Very english "scooter" looking...

Jack


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Re: how original is my T100 #103050
10/10/06 10:27 pm
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Agree,

I understand the bathtubs were a styling point used to link the motorcycle and scooter markets. The scooter craze which had it's genesis in the late 50's meant kids were drifting away from true motorcycles, and parents who were often guaranteeing the hire purchase loans, were less inclined to help a kid with the purchase of a bike, and more comfortable with the scooter.

So the '57 3TA, which was a mild motorcycle at best, was pushed out onto the market with the radical rear wheel enclosure to try and placate the parents and staisfy the kids. Steel tubs and the Darth Vader front guard are hard to find in my neck of the woods, but fibreglass replicas are around.

Having owned one, I wouldn't bother again. Nice to have had one, but they are a b*tch to service, because the bathtub prevents acess to the fundamentals of air cleaner, rear wheel removal, suspension etc.

I still love to see them out and about though, they are like the LE Velo, or the Ariel Leader. A branch on the evolutionary tree that just stoppped growing.


Ginge
Re: how original is my T100 #103051
10/15/06 8:03 am
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Hi,

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Originally posted by Ginge:
I understand the bathtubs were a styling point used to link the motorcycle and scooter markets.
Nope. The only link is that Edward Turner (and Bert Hopwood at Norton? and pre-dated by Phil Irving at Vincent) noted how practical the built-in weather protection of a scooter made them to the ordinary man- (and woman-) in the street, who didn't want to get involved in specialist biking gear (though the practicality of ordinary clothing when sliding down the road on your backside seems to have been glossed over :rolleyes: ). The bathtub and deep front mudguards on late-1950's and early 1960's Triumphs, and the bodywork on the unit Nortons and last Vincents, were attempts to build this practicality into proper motorcycles. Likewise, the Triumph nacelle was Turner's attempt to cover over a stylistically-messy area on motorcycles.

Andy: Afaict, almost nothing on your T100A is original. laugh However, I agree with the others that whoever built it put a lot of thought into creating it and, imho, you've a nice-looking bike.

Hth.

Regards,

Re: how original is my T100 #103052
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that wheelie bin in the background could be substituted for the bathtub with a small amount of work


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