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#700651 - 07/03/17 11:13 pm loring, 2017  
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spring was cancelled due to rain.

here's the schedule for july:

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Hello Racers,

We are just 3 weeks away from the Maine Event and things are looking good for the event. Here is the tentative schedule and as any of you who have raced with us before know, add an ish to the end of all times listed.

See you all soon.

Tim & Joe

Please keep in mind that all of these times are flexible based on weather.
(We may run late or start early on days depending on forecasted weather.)

Gates
July 11th - July 17th - Gates are open 24 around the clock for racers and crews

Tech Hours
12th ~ 9-5 13th-16th ~ All Day
Late arrivals during racing may have to wait for tech.

Meetings
Meetings will be EVERY Morning before we race.
All Rookies MUST attend the Rookie and Drivers Meeting.

Air Horn
Blowing of the air horn at Registration is the universal signal for a meeting starting.

RACING
July 12th - 3:00 - 5:00
July 13th - 10:00 - 4:00
July 14th - 10:00 - 4:00
July 15th - 9:00 - 5:00
July 16th - 8:00 - 2:00

Once again, all of these times are flexible based on weather, racers, volunteers


i'll be there, unless i discover something horrible in my gearbox tomorrow (i'm hiding from it now and drinking a third gin and tonic instead).

pushrod tom and other tom will be there.

chris, have you had a break in your schedule? enquiring minds want to know!

who else?

Last edited by kevin roberts; 07/12/17 3:11 pm.

Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#700704 - 07/04/17 10:38 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Kevin,

No I will not make it to this one. I will be in Michigan for 2 weeks starting on Monday the 10th for training and testing for my CWI license (certified welding inspector).

Good luck next week, wish I could be there racing. Will need to plan for Sept or next year.


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#700706 - 07/04/17 11:13 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Both the bikes I built will be there...But I won't.... Please visit and chat with my rider,..Look for a 6 foot tall trim tattooed hipster with a 6 foot tall girlfriend, new black Ford PU truck and 30 foot trailer...Tell him to keep the batteries on the bikes charged...


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#701590 - 07/13/17 12:13 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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yo

spent the night in new york at tony's listening to the green frogs in his pond and staying up way too late. next day drove 688 miles to limestone. took like 14 hours of driving, and my lovely wife won't drive the car with the trailer attached.

today passed tech no problem and then did last minute adjustments to the machine. off the trailer it started first kick. nothing really needs to be done, but i needed to install an oversize clutch cable and adjust the clutch. went over to the warehouse for british cycle supply and they had a NOS wassell 6-inch over clutch cable on the shelf, complete with the little cast nubbin to squirt in oil. perfect. pulled off the barnett and away we went.

there were two hours that you could race, but lots of the fast people were trying to get certified at 125, 150, and 175 mph, so i went over and just watched.

there was a model T that supposedly does 74 mph on the road. black bart was there with his rider thomas cronyn, who did 139 with the BSA triple out of the traps, first time. there's a norton there, and john from ECTA brought a triumph 3TA in a full fairing-- very pretty machine.

harleys, hayabusas, kawasakis, lots of very pretty immaculate machines that are tuned with a bluetooth and a computer interface.

more to come. i forgot the charger for the laptop.

lol


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#701597 - 07/13/17 1:27 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Sounds like you are having an adventure. Good luck and ride safe!


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#701618 - 07/13/17 10:36 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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#701655 - 07/14/17 12:07 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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three runs, all plagued with shifting problems.

not withthe gearbox, but with the awkward controls.

i experimented with GP style and with other methods, and at the end of the day just returnex to the heel-shifter i had tried and rejected before. now i stomp with my heel for upshift, and downshift only with a hand lever. not a hot ticket for road racing, but not a handicap on LSR.

took it out to the practice runway and it worked fine. so we'll try it tomorrow.

then the tach died again.

other tom is here! chatted briefly thengotbusy. have to go find him tomorrow.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#701793 - 07/15/17 1:57 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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lots going on. this place is super mellow. you dont have to hurry and get back in line like in ohio. just wheel into the pits, fix whatever, change whatever, and back in a short lineup again to run. low key and lots of time to improve yourself.

theres a norton doing 137? not sure

the 3TA did 88. i dont have time to take pitchers but my wife has some. pushrod tom and mike are here with the hornet, changing gearbox sprockets at sunset.

other tom is running the hot rod bridgestone-- today was his birthday.

the heel shifter on my bike works lots better. 122, 127, 124.

it did the 127 with 34-inch pipes and 38 BTDC. then put on extensions to bring it to 36, and it was slower, one time.

the bike seems to like the 130 mains and 38 BTDC, so tomorrow is all about testing the extensions. i can change the gearing up or down to hit 129 at 6900 or 7300. we'll see whether it can push that much air out of the way.

lots of little problems. so far ive blown oil over the back of the bike from an oil tank without a breather tube, had my fuel tanks break loose (re-welded and back in two hours), gearbox is leaking from a stripped bolt, tried several shifter orientations, fixed tbe free-spinning tach cable drive by jamming the square-to-blade joint with bent aluminum can pieces. carbs tend to work loose on the spigots and slip back- one fell off while i was getting in line.. then the clutch cable started generating alarming amounts of free play-- turned out it was just the barrel adjuster at the lever that was slipping. so british cycle supply opens at 0900, and i'll buy a new lever assembly.

then new plugs and back on the runway, all day.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#701796 - 07/15/17 2:16 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Thanks ... keep the dispatches coming ...


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#701798 - 07/15/17 2:25 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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tomorrow tony's double shows up.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#701815 - 07/15/17 11:07 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
tomorrow tony's double shows up.


The double is there...somewhere....


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#701890 - 07/16/17 1:48 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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lyja showed up at 0600 with the double. me and the wife and kids were still zoned out at the motel. i needed a new clutch lever from the british cycle supply warehouse on the base, and they didnt open up until 0900. got to the airport, put that on, checked the oil level in the leaky gearbox, and put in fresh plugs.

ran ten times, multiple runs with 36, 38, 40, and back to 38-inch pipes. the machine liked the 38s, and would run consistent 127s with them at the end of the 1.5 mile. then at the end of the day it cooled down, with a RAD of 102, and i said, i wonder . . .

so i richened the mains a size to 135, and got the best so far: 127 in the mile, and 128 in the 1.5. personal best with this machine, but still behind tony's 650, because his rider bumped the M/PG 650/4 to a stinking 129 in the mile and 133 in the 1.5. so i'm still behind.

the double did several runs into the 140s, so the power is there. but there wasnt oil pressure to the front motor, so it went back on the trailer until next time. it drew quite a crowd at the starting line when it rolled up. i was there during safety inspection, and the tech inspector turned to me and said, this is what it's all about. anybody can buy a hayabusa.

back tomorrow. may start out with 140 jets in the early morning and see what they do.

exhausted.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#701926 - 07/16/17 1:08 pm Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Your speeds are there.


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#701933 - 07/16/17 2:46 pm Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
i was there during safety inspection, and the tech inspector turned to me and said, this is what it's all about. anybody can buy a hayabusa.


very well said


When given the choice between two evils I picked the one I haven't tried before
#701945 - 07/16/17 5:51 pm Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Good on ye Kevin, these are good numbers, well done!


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#701952 - 07/16/17 7:03 pm Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Just checked the weather map for Limestone, and uh-oh, thunderstorms about to hit ...


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#701978 - 07/17/17 12:43 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kurt fischer]  
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in the motel on the way home, but the rain held out on us until on the way out.

almost nobody there at the end. i was hotlapping at the end of a five-gallon can, back on the 130s in the warm air . . .

anyway i was going to do three runs to empty the tanks and quit, when the starter leaned over and said

open the next can.

(my wife had been talking)

so i thought, we're 1100 miles from home, and i have an hour left. so we opened the can.

lol

not to be, though, the gearbox began popping out of third under power. aborted two runs and said, better quit before it breaks.

so we put it up on the trailer and headed out. two days of driving to go.

pictures coming when i get a charger.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
#701981 - 07/17/17 1:42 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Kevin,

You put down some really good numbers, sounds like everyone had a good tme even with encountering some issues.Hoping to be able to make the last event but not sure yet.

Safe travels on yourway home.


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#701982 - 07/17/17 1:48 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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It has taken me a bit to say anything about the weekend mainly due to the fact that our (former) record holding BSA Hornet not only failed to defend itself but expired rather dramatically while trying to do so. The barrel lifted while underway by pulling out the 3/8 studs in the case. Mike was wondering why his leg was getting so hot as he went through the 1.5 mile trap at 124+. It turned out he was being bathed in the precious bodily fluids of the Beezer! Nice shine on the leathers! Don't know why yet. The brand new turbo bike was much better. We made quite a number of runs on Friday and found it way overgeared. Couldn't use 4th gear. Best of 138+. We picked up a new 19 tooth sprocket from our onsite supplier, BCS. That allowed us to use high gear and resulted in a best of 142.9 on Saturday.
The site and organisation in Maine are the best opportunity to go fast and have fun. Very relaxed atmosphere and not too crowded. A couple of our Brit buddies made full use of the situation. The award for hardest working racer at Loring this year would have to go to Kevin. He was either on the track or getting ready to go, all weekend long. He also had a great pit crew! A close runner up would be Mike Tomany on his Norton. He ran a couple of days with gas and then switched carbs and used methanol for 2 days. amazing! The person with the least work/results ratio was Lyja Wilton riding our favorite nemesis Triumph to a new MPG650 record of 133+. That will be a very tough nut to crack!! Nice work guys!! He also got a couple of shake down runs on the new double engine job. Black Bart and Thomas got very close to 150 with the North Rocket 3.
We are already planning the prep for our next trip to Maine...........whenever that may be. Cheers, PRT

#701995 - 07/17/17 9:45 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: kevin roberts]  
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Got back to Nova Scotia yesterday afternoon after running out of bikes on Saturday. We took two bikes with the little CB350 Honda Cafe bike that I built a few years ago setting a new record in CG-350/4 at 95mph piloted by my longtime pit "Bitch" Ed. My Bridgestone 350 ran well in the lower gears but started serious misfiring at higher rpm.

It was a pleasure to meet Kevin and his lovely pit crew Shawna! As PRT said, they earn the award for hardest working crew and made me feel totally unprepared. Also great to see Tom and Mike again with the A65s, and meet Lyja and his crew. Mike Tomany, whom I met several years ago vintage road racing on his Norton never fails to impress. Also my first time to meet Bart and Thomas with the beautiful North Rocket Three who pitted next to us. John Bennet's 350 Triumph was also a very nicely prepared bike with a top speed of 85 mph or so.

Loring is a wonderful venue that inspires us to keep on trucking. I especially like to see the "old 'n slo" bikes go fast again. Although not British, a special mention should be made to our head technical inspector Jesse who built his girlfriend a bike using a Harbor Freight 6.5hp motor that managed a cool 60mph in APG 250/4.

O.T.

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#701998 - 07/17/17 10:58 am Re: loring, july 2017 [Re: pushrod tom]  
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Originally Posted by pushrod tom
The person with the least work/results ratio was Lyja Wilton riding our favorite nemesis Triumph to a new MPG650 record of 133+. That will be a very tough nut to crack!! Nice work guys!! He also got a couple of shake down runs on the new double engine job.


.I was unable able to make Loring due to other obligations... The Triumph has been a great bike from the day I built it 4 years ago...It's for sure far greater than the sum of it's parts and the routine is to run it's best off the trailer because I like to watch the racing and not work on the bike at the track grin.I also believe Lyjha's determination as a rider adds more speed than my tuning abilities..I suspect the 133 MPH record won't last too long...
The double engine bike was fine on it's maiden voyage, Lyjha held back on the throttle to be sure the bike has no nasty habits for 142 MPH..It goes in a straight line and nothing fell off...On the second run a carb flooded badly causing misfiring....But that was a sign from the racing gods because the front engine had a serious drop in oil pressure that was noticed before a rod sawed the motor in half.A note here,no one uses oil pressure gauges but I do and the gauge probably saved an engine and possibly a wreck due to engine seizure....And I need to tune the engines to increase power over 6000 rpm
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[quote= i was there during safety inspection, and the tech inspector turned to me and said, this is what it's all about. anybody can buy a hayabusa.
.[/quote]

Jim Jensen the long time SCTA Bonneville and El Mirage starter once referred to Hayabusas as "store bought HP."


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I think OT said it very well. Loring is the best venue for LSR short of Bonneville. Maybe better? For anyone east of the Mississippi who wants to do this, you gotta get there. The organisers run a smooth, tight, and enjoyable ship. We have LOTS to do before our next trip!! PRT

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i've only been to wilmington and to loring.

if wilmington comes back, i'll certainly be there, because its only three hours from my door. that's a no-brainer.

but loring is spectacular, frankly. it's far enough away that west coast people think twice-- shoot, i just got back an hour ago and it was two day's driving for me-- 1100 miles. being so isolated is one reason people stay away. aside from the distance, there isn't anywhere to buy parts if something breaks.

unless you brought a british machine. i wandered through the BCS warehouse for a while. want square-to-blade speedo cable adapters? they have a box with a pound of NOS pieces. old norton brake pedals? preunit triumph brake return springs/ manuals? pipes? cables? they had a NOS OS clutch cable that fit right on my triumph and saved the day.

plus, the organisers work to keep you on the track. the system is smooth, the wait for a second run is never more than fifteen or twenty minutes, and it's casual on everything except safety. my bike got a visual going-over every time it went to the line, what with the starter picking stones out of my tires, and the line boss looking over my cables and asking me if i'd checked the nuts and bolts lately.

it was frustrating several times to be out there on time in the early morning lined up with the RAD meter showing 105 percent, and nobody starting the driver's meeting until later, but the mellow, don't-be-in-a-hurry attitude was worth it everywhere else.

the track is smooth, the 1.5-mile flags are good for another few mph for our stuff, and the extra runway for casual tuning and checks was priceless for me, as i tried to work through the shifting issues on my T120.

i got more runs at loring even taking pit stops to change things between runs than i did at wilmington going right from the lights to the beginning of the line again.

i'm going back in september for the three day event, and i guess back forever after now. that's it for any other vacation.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
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arrived!

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the pit:

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B52 hanger:

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look close-- CL100 for scale:

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