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Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #700516
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bridgestone? cool! i remember those all over singapore.

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what does it look like now?

the dyno guy had one of these sitting in the shop, for sale. it took me way back. remember that cylinder head?

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"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
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Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #700533
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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
^^^This is why you continue to be so frustrating. you don't worry like i do, but just go out and set records and drink tequila.
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Hmmm..The problems you have were mostly the magneto and now the clutch....I use a Pazon Smartfire and have had failures ...but they happened in my shop....On the first dyno testing after the initial build the expensive Barnett clutch disc refused to disengage after the session...Cheap cork discs were the answer. On the night before the bike debut at Ohio ,the OIF sprung a leak from the usual places. I chose that type of frame to avoid oil tank leaks!!!! My rider was up till four in the morning fabricating an add on oil tank.. But the 650 was always reliable at the track and ran record speed off the trailer pretty much all the time....
My rider friend will be on the double Triumph at Maine but I won't be there ....I have no idea how the bike will handle at speed...I am less than fully confident about the engines durability...I worry if an engine throws it crankshaft and the bike goes down...Two engines, twice the worry......
But at the track I don't worry and enjoy the racing...But I don't ride the bike either...


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Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #700561
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i honestly think the clutch will be fine, if i just use it like i was designed to be used, like tom said. and the magneto should be fine as well, now that it will be simplified. maintaining a battery and wiring harness for tbe pazon was frustrating too- i melted tbe harness the first time out when the fuse block fell to bits and shorted out. what i do like is that there have been no problems with the reciprocating assembly at all. just the accessory systems.

i'm really interested in seeing your machine. you keep downplaying the accompishment, but it's every bit as sophisticated as any double i've ever seen in any old magazine or photo. much better built, in fact, and done a lot smarter. i think it will probably do fine, unless it gets thrashed. but you knoa, running these things thrashes them, by definition. none of the major components was ever engineered with any of this in mind. the engines were the pontiacs of their day, if not the chevrolets. my magneto was built to power a farm tractor.

now my fork seals are junk. dunno if lowbrow is open today.


"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #700564
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"i'm really interested in seeing your machine. you keep downplaying the accompishment, but it's every bit as sophisticated as any double i've ever seen in any old magazine or photo. much better built, in fact, and done a lot smarter."

I agree with Kevin. I understand you won't be there to see it run, but, hey, it's not that long a drive for a fun weekend! Maybe Kevin will stop by and kidnap you on his way.

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PS: Kevin, I'd post a photo of the BS, but I can't until I get another photo Hosting account. I'm just waiting for the time being as I expect Photobucket to come to their senses, or they're going to lose about a million customers real quick.

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Re: mail-order LSR [Re: koncretekid] #700565
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You guys will be entertained by the double...It's a virtual cornucopia of clever hillbilly engineering... wink I do take pride in Harley electric started and small on board battery and the modified Subaru wheel bearing supporting the primary drive jack shaft... And all the junkyard parts...


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Junkyard parts !? Geez, Tony, and here I was thinking the most important part of the Double was you ! Bloody good job, Mate.

Re: mail-order LSR [Re: Triless] #700575
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Thanks ... For me ,building the machine is the challenge and what happens after that is not so important...Since the early 1990's I built from ground up seven Triumph twins including the race bikes, a BSA A10 "bobber" and several Harleys..I have none of them now...My regular rider bikes generally gravitated toward Italian V twins because I prefer the sound and feel over other types....But Triumphs are just magical to me and love to work on them...


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Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #700647
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success!

for once . . . i now have a handful of clutch adjuster screws, grade 8, or whatever grade 8 is in metric.

since i live in an oil town (not as much as in texas or oklahoma, but getting there) i'm starting to get decent industrial supply and repair stores moving in. i finally drove the 27,000-pound dump truck to the industrial hardware store and went back into the shelves. they're usually not open when i need to get stuff, so i hadn't been there yet.

this place has a quarter-acre of fasteners 8 shelves high. metric and SAE, grades 2, 5, and 8, hex, socket, square, anodized, natural and on and on. anyway, i said, show me your 10mm 1.5mm/thread set screws. everywhere else had them only a centimeter long. not here. these are a full 25mm long:

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so i bought a handful. along with several new clutch pushrods, and a gearbox clutch release shaft from british cycle supply, i've got the clutch problem licked, i hope.

todd at lowbrow is sending me fork seals. he'll be at mid-ohio with a pretty nice running starfire for sale, he says.

pam newby finally got paid today for the clutch parts she sent me saturday.

dave at morris magneto is sending me what i need to convert the single tower coil/distributor to a dual tower/no distributor, so i can remove the worn distributor mechanism.

on a lighter note, i parked my dump truck after a 12-hour day, walked over to my pickup, and a kitten came crawling out from under:

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this is one of my housecats (i currently have 10 or 11, and at least that many in the barn). apparently she crawled up into the undercarriage of my pickup truck, rode it on five miles of gravel road to work, and then waited under the pickup all day until i returned.

8 lives to go . . .


"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #700776
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okay . . .

all back up and running. here is what we have:

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waiting on fork seals from lowbrow, magneto parts from morse. everything else is done.

clutch works, tach works (did i mention the tach died on the dyno?), bike runs, reset the mains two numbers leaner to start with, beginning with 34-inch 1-5/8 pipes, with extensions all the way to 42 inches.

the adjustable ARD gives me 20 degrees of advance adjustability, just by tapping the old fairbanks morse magneto back and forth with a rubber hammer. i'll start at 36 BTDC and see where we go.

since we croaked on the dyno, i'll tune it the old way, on the runway.




"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #701079
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done.

except for the new fork seals from lowbrow, which will go in tomorrow afternoon, if they fit.

the new dual fire (waste spark) magneto parts from morris magnetos fit perfectly. just a new lexan cap, a two-tower coil, and a higher capacity capacitor. they just swap into the old mag.

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i still think the clear cap is tacky, but the lexan isn't as brittle as the bakelite, so i'll shut up and use it. switching to the dual fire means i remove the old FM distributor cap and rotor, and just use the same under-rotor two-lobe cam to spark the each cylinder directly every 360, instead of every 720. i still have the old single-fire parts, including a NOS coil, and i can switch back in about 12 minutes if i need to. these things are super simple to run and tune, once they're working to start with.

the single red wire is my entire electrical system. it runs from the points to a kill switch on the bars and grounds the points to kill the engine. it caused me confusion earlier because it reads continuity to ground even when the motor is running-- i'd never thought to put a meter on it when the magneto was running correctly. i'm using el cheapo eBay chinese toggles that cost me about US$4.50 each. i bought a half dozen:

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^^you can also see that i need a longer-than-stock clutch cable, even with clip ons, because the bars are angled down. BCS sells extended cables, so i'll pick one up at main.

it takes an extended tach cable as well, to get at the instrument without kinks when it's sitting upright like that. no problem with an electronic unit, but i tossed the battery:

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timing the system is easy. first you static-time the mag the old way to get it running, by setting the engine at something or other, in this case at 38 BTDC, and then adusting the timing using the belt drive until the points are just opening. i punched a mark into the newby pulley at both 38 and at TDC, so this is easy.

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i also bought a timing tool from morris as an experiment, and it works better than anything else i've tried to static-time the magneto:

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this thing works like a buzz box, and replaces the 12V-1157 light bulb and soldered wires i'd been using as an indicator of when the magneto points were opening. i couldn't detect a change in the bulb brightness. i also tried a piece of mylar with some washers clipped to it with alligators as weights. doing that meant that when the points opened the weights fell out on the floor. that worked as long as the points were perfect, but it was a pain to get the mylar into the point gap, and either one of these meant that you had to open the magneto cover, which isn't easy to get to. this morris box hooks up to any ground and to the ground stud on the magneto, from the outside, without opening anything. it detects induction changes as the points open and close, rather than continuity, and switches on a light and a buzzer. it's actually more sensitive than my ability to detect movement of my fingers as they rotate the pulleys.

once the machine is running at the 38 BTDC mark, i can set it to anything else using the modified ARD mag mount. the four mounting bolt holes are slotted, so i have 20 degrees of rotation to play with by tapping the mag backwards and forwards, just like an automobile distributor. you can do it with the motor running as well, so i can use a dial-back-to-zero light on the crankshaft rotor to set the tming much more quickly and repeatedly that i could ever get just using static timing alone. this is fantastic. i have no idea why the originals weren't made this way. slotting the mounting holes is hardly more difficult than drilling them in the right place to start with.

the magneto doesn't make a perfect spark, and there are some ghost timing marks, too, probably from point bounce. but it runs well, and i may keep this system instead of putting the pazon back in. the pazon had way more complexity in the wiring and i had to put a battery in somewhere. i now have an oil tank where the stock battery box was, so i don't know where i'd put the little shorei, small as it is.

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^^^i also made the exhaust to get an extra inch of clearance between the magneto and the pipes. the old ARDs bump the stock pipes on a long-rod 650, and won't clear a T140 at all without some changes. making the pipes myself let me run them away from the head an extra inch and a quarter before turning them down. i also learned to put my O2 sensor in the leftpipe, not the right one . . . haven't mounted it in this, although it would be easy to duct tape a battery on for AF testing. no more time.

some of the old ARD mags have a pulley cover with alan delios's initials, and some are plain, like this one. i don't know if either is older, or rarer. JRC sells various covers for the lytedrive ARD replicas, but not a plain one like this.



"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #701081
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more stuff

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pipes are cut off at 34 inches, and i have extensions that will let me run it out to 42 inches by clamping them on the ends. i wanted to be knowing already what it liked from the dyno, but that didn't go so well.

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carb cables are a bit inconvenient, as they get bent over if i lie down on them. but changing the FCR linkage and having new cables made costs close to $200, so they're going to work just fine as-is unless they're a complete failure. i do have linkage and cables that lie down horizontally, but they bump the rocker boxes with the carbs up close against the head like this. if i extend the carbs back a few inches i'll be able to put them on, but that's for later.

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pushrod tom's hornet made me buy new V-rated tires, as now everybody has to run something that will be legal above 130 mph. thanks, tom. you rock.

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the seat is still sort of rudimentary. i have something on hand to make it a little less spartan, but i haven't had time. maybe tomorrow.

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tach mount is perfect. i can read it between the fork legs when tucked in. i can change mounts to raise it in a few minutes, but then i won't be able to read it any more.

want a 58 sportster, all there?

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i saw this for sale down by the ohio river. $4000, almost all original, he says, except for the front forks. but he still has the orginal front fender, if you ever get the forks right. original seat, newer tailight. i dunno squat about harleys, but it shifts on the right, so that's okay by me.

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the dry newby belt means i lost the primary case breather, so i have breathers in the crankcase by the magneto, and then two into the rocker boxes. there were originally two hoses in the crankcase, but the magneto blocks one of them.

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^^^these rocker cap breathers are small, but pulse constantly while the engine is running. so i know they work. whether or not they help is debatable, but they were easy to do. i didn't realize so much air was going in and out through those little drain holes in the tappet guide blocks, but it's there.



"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #701083
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the foot controls are a pain in the ass.

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in order for the shifter lever to clear the kickstart, it has to be pointing more or less straight down, which is a bit hard to get used to. but i don't shift much. i suppose i'll have to build a hand-held starter and do it that way, but i'd rather not.

i could extend the swing arm back as much as 5.9 inches, and then mount the footpegs farther back. but frankly that's way more expensive and complicated than building a hand starter. i may just live with this.

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tank mounts are ugly, but the blue paint hides some of that. i have to rest the side of my chin on this mess when bent over, so i may add some sort of pad to keep from losing skin.

the carbs came jetted for a suzuki DR370, at 150 on the mains:

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and i got jets three sizes up and down to work with. but i just kept going down, 145, 140, 135, 130 . . . it did 112 mph with 140s and 10.5 AF, so i'm running 130s now to start with and i'll watch the plugs to see whether i need to go back up.

front brake is from some 1970's TR7, i think. i don't need a front brake to be legal, but i kind of like them anyway. unless i'm super close to winning, i'll keep it. easy to take off.

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controls for it are some sort of chinese lever assembly from eBay. not expensive, and lots easier to get than the stock triumph set up. this is a 12 or 14mm cylinder. can't remember which, but it works fine. had to build a stainless brake line, but got all the parts off the net:

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not much else has changed, except the seasons. i love living in the boondocks:

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"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #701086
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Ready to load on the trailer. How many hours is it from Ohio to Loring?


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Good luck Kevin! You may want to if bending the kick starter will give you the clearance needed. I had to heat mine on the stroker A65 to clear the rearsets, kinda hard to tell but bent it out some and rotated forward more.

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Re: mail-order LSR [Re: kevin roberts] #701102
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Kevin,
Very nice work on all details. Don't sweat the cosmetic blemishes - - they won't slow you down!

Technically your tach mount may not be allowed according to 7.F.11.5 "....nor more than 2" below the top of the upper triple clamp.....", but Jesse Michaud has the final say on this mod.

As for shift lever location, you can always take the kick starter off, as there will be plenty of help to bump start the bike on the line. Once bump started, you can back pedal to the line. If you haven't tried this before, it may take some practice, probably in 2nd gear (definitely not 1st), but at least you have the weight to get the wheel turning the motor.

If you do decide to lengthen the swingarm in the future, do not go the full 5.9" that appears to be allowed. Wheelbase measurements are normally made from the front axle to the rear axle WHEN AT ITS REARMOST POSITION, so 5.9" may put you out too far. Friend of mine got dinged at BMST for this and had to come up with a way to restrict the movement.

What day are you arriving? Hope to see you in tech.

Tom

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On my pile of junk the kick lever just clears the shifter by 3/8 inch.In the past I used a fold up Yamaha XS650 lever but it was a causality when the bike was remodeled last winter.......Hopefully you still plan to stop here for a rest ...

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Originally Posted by konon
Ready to load on the trailer. How many hours is it from Ohio to Loring?



gawd, it's 1100 miles-- 20 hours, maybe? trips are always longer with the kids. when they were little it always took at least 45 minutes to get all of them in and out of the bathrooms. now that they're older they'r quicker but complain more.


"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
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Originally Posted by Blown Income
Good luck Kevin! You may want to if bending the kick starter will give you the clearance needed. I had to heat mine on the stroker A65 to clear the rearsets, kinda hard to tell but bent it out some and rotated forward more.


dunno what i could do, chris. the actual kick start pedal clears with no trouble, but my heel hits the shift lever itself and taps it into first gear, which immediately stalls the motor. this was a real issue last time, as was the vertical shift lever. it took about five runs to get to where i could crank it on without missing shifts. now it's cumbersome, but i know how to do it.

shortening the kickstart lever would do it, too. the motor isn't hard to kick.


"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
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Originally Posted by koncretekid
Kevin,
As for shift lever location, you can always take the kick starter off, as there will be plenty of help to bump start the bike on the line. Once bump started, you can back pedal to the line. If you haven't tried this before, it may take some practice, probably in 2nd gear (definitely not 1st), but at least you have the weight to get the wheel turning the motor.


bumping this was not very successful last time. there was a really helpful guy there with the norton/TR6 team who tried to help me, and i think i killed him.

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If you do decide to lengthen the swingarm in the future, do not go the full 5.9" that appears to be allowed. Wheelbase measurements are normally made from the front axle to the rear axle WHEN AT ITS REARMOST POSITION, so 5.9" may put you out too far. Friend of mine got dinged at BMST for this and had to come up with a way to restrict the movement.


ouch. i didn't know that.

chris told me about making his BSA chainguard out of nominal 1/8-aluminum, and having the inspectors discover that it was a few thousandths undersize. i found the same thing with mine, and had to go to the shop with a set of calipers to measure their metal when i re-made mine.

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What day are you arriving? Hope to see you in tech.

Tom


leaving monday, arriving limestone tuesday night.


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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
On my pile of junk the kick lever just clears the shifter by 3/8 inch.In the past I used a fold up Yamaha XS650 lever but it was a causality when the bike was remodeled last winter.......Hopefully you still plan to stop here for a rest ...

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monday evening. i'll call when we figure stuff out.

you have guards on your bellmouths. that's an excellent idea. i had misfires in tuning when my knee got in the way of the carb. wearing blue jeans it would actually suck my trousers in and stall that cylinder.

are you taking your front breather off the left side instead of out the top? i should have done that, as i could have run two instead of the one i have with the magneto.


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Originally Posted by kevin roberts


are you taking your front breather off the left side instead of out the top? i should have done that, as i could have run two instead of the one i have with the magneto.


Yes, front breather is off the side of the front motor mount......Yeah,let me know what's going on...


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Kevin,
Reviewing the Loring rules tonight, I don't see the 10% for wheelbase extension, which must be a BMST rule. Loring book says maximum wheelbase is 68". Sorry if I misled you.
Tom


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no, tom, if i do something like that i'll try to keep it legal for both east and west, rather than have to change the machine if i go somewhere else with it.

i didn't know the loring book was different from ECTA. i've glanced through it, but not in detail.

now i'm hoping i didn't miss something i should have allowed for..


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