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1972 thunderbolt paint #517979
12/09/13 12:51 am
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Gents, i am going to be painting my 72 thunderbolt , besides the bronze color, what would my other original paint options be? Does anyone have paint codes?

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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #518002
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For 72' I think the only option was bronze. If you don't mind the 1971 colour of green, these can look quite nice.

http://www.bsansw.org.au/catalogs/1971/71r6.jpg

the colour is known as stirling moss green.

http://www.rsbikepaint.com/en-gb/colours.php#makeid=23&modelid=566&prodyear=1971

HTH


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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #518008
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BSA's were always availabe in all black ( for Mr Plod ) and oft in white as well ( for Mr Interplod / NATO ), So there are two options.
We also were offerred 71 & 72's in all of the colours of the Notrun catalogue ( just fewer coats ) with the bikes bing redesignated "73 models".


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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #518123
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I've seen a couple of '72s that were black with a red BSA logo on the tank, but I don't recall if they were Lightnings or Thunderbolts.


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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #518148
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I am quite shure that the european tank lightnings came with red color, for 72, not sure about the tunderbolts, but a friend of mine has 73 Tunderbolt (manufactured in september 72) in original in red, this bike is still in original paint.


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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: Per B - R.I.P.] #518237
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i have owned or had 'joint custody' of this one for over 25 years as far as i can tell it is all original..


1972 Triumph T120
1968 BSA A65
1968 MGB Roadster
1979 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
1969 Honda Mini Trail
1939 farmall f30 tractor
2004 Honda Shadow Aero
1972 BSA Thunderbolt
1975 yamaha xs650b
1972 Norton commando
Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: Allan Gill] #518752
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Originally Posted By: Allan Gill
For 72' I think the only option was bronze. If you don't mind the 1971 colour of green, these can look quite nice.

http://www.bsansw.org.au/catalogs/1971/71r6.jpg

the colour is known as stirling moss green.

http://www.rsbikepaint.com/en-gb/colours.php#makeid=23&modelid=566&prodyear=1971

HTH



I have bought the RS Paints version of Sterling Moss Green and it's nothing like it! Theirs is flat and too dark!

See here is the original tank and the inside of a side panel I sprayed with RS Paints version.
The flash from the camera does alter the actual colour of the tank but you can see the RS Paint is miles away!




A Better likeness of the original tank

The closest is a UK colour of Rover Kensington metallic green but you will need your paint man to add a bit more metallic, I took in my original tank and that is what he mixed.

The white is UK Ford Diamond White.

Not that it is relevant to the year of your bike but RS paints version Of Dove Grey is RAL7032 when in fact the correct colour is RAL7044.

So if you are going to get a colour that is anywhere near right see if you can track down an original and get it colour matched.

Regards




Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #518772
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i dunno. but in 1975 the effect was close to the tank but not as bright as I remember it, the panel is way too dark.


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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: gavin eisler] #518774
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Tank's original at the moment, will get painted soon , shame though, but the dents irritate the life outta me!




Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #518798
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That's interesting Andy, although RS say it isn't a candy, the original looks like it could be with the it having the metallic look to it and it changing a little in shade as the position of the camera alters.


(and see image 2 for the inside/outside aspect, the bright light shows its true colour, other wise to appearance of too much paint shows through)

Candy top paints will be really dark like your side panel if:

1) there is no candy base coat
2) too much candy top coat is applied over base


3) no lacquer applied or lacquer rubbed back ( and that makes it seem darker than no lacquer at all)


If you want Andy, you can send me that tin of green and I can spray it over some of the BSA silver candy base.

I was well impressed with the red I got from them. ( and can't wait for summer to get some nice shots of the paintwork)
The above was using a Honda red, this was the correct colour for a 68' lightning

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You could try the proposed colours for the 72 models

72 A65L
metallic ultramarine



and 72 A70
warm bronze.



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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #518820
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I'd seen posts before about RS paints not looking right but if its as bad as in the photo they are not even close.

Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: raf940] #518988
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Originally Posted By: raf940
i have owned or had 'joint custody' of this one for over 25 years as far as i can tell it is all original..


My 72 Thunderbolt is also red. But I got mine from the Grandson of the dealer and he said his grandfather painted it red . It was a gift for his son at the time and his son didn't like the bronze . I see no bronze under the chips in my paint though.


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Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: wadeschields] #519045
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me see um no traces of bronze either even on the inside of the side panels or tunnel of tank


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1968 MGB Roadster
1979 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
1969 Honda Mini Trail
1939 farmall f30 tractor
2004 Honda Shadow Aero
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1972 Norton commando
Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #519153
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I went through an exercise to try to get the code of the 1972 Bronze. I have to admit I have no memories of seeing one when they were new, but I rather liked the color of this one -

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/RJG9/m...b72c6e.jpg.html
(1972 BIKE magazine test of A65L)

I found a couple of side panels in green and bronze that looked like factory paint, and got them matched by Dupont. I received from them two test panels:

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/RJG9/media-full/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1277_zpsef023bdc.jpg.html

and an ingredients list for the bronze:

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/RJG9/media-full/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1273_zps310f0a29.jpg.html

My understanding is the Infiniti color is a close match, the ingredients (including metallic content) are specified as shown.
Unfortunately I cannot find the ingredients for the green one....

I should say the bronze turns from a bronzey color to an orangey red as ambient light becomes brighter. The test panel picture was taken with a flash so looks more red.

How close a match is it to the correct color? I am not sure, although it does look very attractive, especially under street lights. The Bike Test bike was a Lighting, not a Thunderbolt, so theoretically should have been red.......

Anyway, this is what it looks like in practice:

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/RJG9/media-full/Mobile%20Uploads/1972A65T_zps159f1b34.jpg.html

That was 10 years ago, and my tastes have changed. This is a tank I asked Don Hutchinson to do in 1974 Triumph Purple...looks really nice.

http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/RJG9/media-full/Mobile%20Uploads/BSA_zps92f2c029.jpg.html

Maybe a call to him is worthwhile.

Re: 1972 thunderbolt paint [Re: JoejBSA] #519253
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I like that last photo best


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