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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499058
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My first choice is an alloy plate already made with a drain plug. Turns out they are not very plentiful in the US.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499081
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I could make an aluminum sump plate

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they are not very plentiful in the US

Here's market oportinity for you, DMadigan.
Kits with a sump plate, four longer studs, four nyloc nuts, a magnatic drain plug and a nylon ring.
Eleven items for a bargain price, packed on a carton, shrink wrapped...

You owe me for the idea beerchug



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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Ger B] #499094
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Originally Posted By: Ger
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Eleven items for a bargain price, packed on a carton, shrink wrapped...


Priced right, I'd have an order for 6 right now... Maybe 7; 3- A65, and 4- A10.
Maybe another A65....

Wouldn't even need the shrink wrap... Except for maybe part protection?

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499096
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All that for only $49.95 U.S.? I'm in too.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499104
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Wouldn't even need the shrink wrap... Except for

Shrink wrapped you can ask at least $2.98 more.
That's called marketing... laughing


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499113
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I could use five A65/A50's.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499165
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Originally Posted By: Gary E
How did you get the nut on the inside with the screen as a part of the sump?

The screen on later models is a separate piece. It is not a part of the sump plate.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499166
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Originally Posted By: Gary E
I could use five A65/A50's.

Great idea, then I could quit mail ordering parts.
At least ONE of them would run perfectly. laughing


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Mark Z] #499168
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Originally Posted By: Mark Z
I don't see the advantage of putting the nut on the inside,

Because I'm a cheap SOB who doesn't own a welder.
If that were not the case, I'd send all my money to SRM.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499239
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Here's a new Alloy Tech sump plate on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1114-Alloy-Tech-...273&vxp=mtr

There use to be a guy on this board in TX named Louis Llano that sold Alloy Tech stuff, I bought a few of these sump plates from him but that was maybe 8 years ago.

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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499243
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sump plate on Ebay

For 68 USD? sick
A shop here sells them for 30 EU, that's 40 USD, but without the Allen key.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Ger B] #499269
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Walridge has them on sale at the moment for 37.50 Cdn, but don't be ordering until I get my order in smile

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499292
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anybody know if the walridge has a magnetic plug


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499293
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I'll be finding out as I ordered 2 of them.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500593
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Received the oil sump plates today from Walridge. They do not have a magnetic plug nor an oil screen. But they did come with an extra copper washer. They are Wassell made.




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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500603
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Just put this together:

The inspection cap is the same Whitworth thread with safety wire rib that I make for the triples. A rare earth magnet is epoxied into the inside. The sump plate includes a rib to safety wire the cap.

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500763
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Re the Wassel sump plate:

I have a small powerful magnet that I am going to glue onto the bolt. See how that works.

Is the lack of screen a big issue? Seems to me that the magnet should collect any ferrous material that might otherwise have been caught in the screen and the sump is on the return side so if anything get back to the tank it would be "filtered" ha, by the screen in the tank drain plug. Does that make sense? Don't want to bugger things up.

I have not tried to fit it yet, but it seems to me the mounting holes are a lot thicker than the original and I am thinking the studs might not be long enough.

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500788
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Hopefully the glue will withstand 200+ oil temperature.

Lack of a screen may not a big deal, but the magnet won't pickup nonferrous material like aluminum.

The mounting studs will need to be longer.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500801
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The studs stick out 0.630" on mine. Plenty of length for the plate and nut. You want an integral screen? Could add a step and groove for a snap ring to hold a screen in place without having to seal both screen and plate.
The screen keeps the chunks out of the pump gears.

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Gary, use a later 71-1126 A65 screen such as this one:

ebay UK screen

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500883
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Yes, that is what I had marked down as an item to get along with longer mounting studs.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500976
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Gary, What length of stud are you moving to fit this sump and screen? Do you know any suppliers of studs outside of OEM part numbers?
I just ordered one of the screens as well. I am guessing we will need two gaskets to make sure it is oil tight as well. One either side of the screen.

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #500977
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I use one of the eBay screens with my unit, it does also have a magnet in the drain bolt.

It's surprising how much in the way of bits of crud gets caught by the gauze.

The studs used are just Allen bolts Which came with the kit.


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Alan, Do you find that you need a gasket either side of the screen? Or just the one between the screen and case?
The sump plate I bought did not come with mounting hardware so I need to source either studs or allen bolts. Studs would be better I am thinking? save screwing up the threads in the case?

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I use 2 sump gaskets when I fit the B50 screen to B44's after removing the uncleanable gauze soldered to the sump plate.

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