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66 spitfire #440309
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The BSA catalogue and a picture of a show model feature black headlight brackets for the 66 Spitfire , whereas all the ones I have seen restored are chromed. Which is correct?
Cheers Malc

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Re: 66 spitfire [Re: furymalc] #440361
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Re: 66 spitfire [Re: furymalc] #440493
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Thanks for the replies guys, I just wondered if they started off black then changed to chrome.Obviously not then.

Cheers Malc

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If it was a show model or an early print of a 66 catalogue they may have been black until a change before release? I got chrome ones with my 66 project spitfire. I have seen one with black but there is no way of knowing when or if it was changed during it's life as it was a restoration.

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Hi Guys
Another question about my 66.
My parts book shows a different battery carrier to the one I have.
But the workshop manual shows one like mine .
The top piece and the knurled nuts are missing,are these correct for the year?.
Does anyone know the part numbers for these?

Cheers Malc

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I know that Rabers in San Jose CA has these knurled nuts in stock. I dont know the part number off the top of my head, but I do have a parts book that lists them. I can check tonight when I am home. Also I have found the special bolt that holds all of this together to be too short, and the replacement new part (also from Rabers) to be too short as well. I am thinking I am going to have a machine shop make me some longer ones. Also the new replacement rubber pieces for this application are pretty crappy. They arent anywhere near what the original parts look like. This battery tray/carrier is a rather unique design for the 1966. I am thinking I want to restore/build it as close to the original as possible, and this may take some doing!

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Sometimes I think I know a lot, but I've never seen that setup. Was that for all 66 twins with battery?

Re: 66 spitfire [Re: furymalc] #442241
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I was able to find everything but that top plate for my 66 Spitfire. The hanger suspends the battery from those rubber spacers. I assume it was to try to isolate the battery from vibration. I wound up using a rubber strap. PM me and I can send you a picture if.you want. I tried to stay close to original but at least that is hidden behind the sidecover. I'm also running Concentric carbs instead od GPs since that's what came with my bike and I understand that the GPs are a pain to live with if you plan to ride the bike.


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Re: 66 spitfire [Re: furymalc] #442297
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I have been looking through the parts book.
Although its dated 1966 I think it is more relevant to the early 67 models.Because it shows:- finned rocker cover,rotor inspection cover,alloy rear brake plate ,side panels without the badges and the different battery carrier.
Also no chrome headlight brackets were listed .
Does anyone have the proper parts book? and give the numbers for the carrier top and the special bolt?.
Also the part numbers for the side panel badge fixing screws and nuts.

Cheers Malc

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Parts Book 00-5126 shows this set up for 66 frames with A50C prefix. There are 2 different carriers depending upon whether you have 1 X 12V battery or 2 X 6v. 12v= 68-4555, 6v = 68-4569

carrier top is 68-4570 if used with 2 x 6v batteries and 68 4562 if 12v. Bolts are 68-4575 which don't look special from the parts book drawing.

I have the 67 parts book 00-5129 which shows the strap type carrier with no top cover.

The side panel screws and nuts are 5BA x 1/4" dome head countersunk. You can find them in s/s on e b*y in UK. The original p/nos are screw 65-8317 and nut 42-8034

Hope this helps

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Re: 66 spitfire [Re: furymalc] #442332
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Thanks VicCyclone,thats great .
I think a lot of the stuff for a 66 is one year only.
How about some of the other 66 Spit owners posting some photos to see what can be achieved and help inspire me.

Thanks again guys for the help.

Malc

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I have a 66 parts book and I find that my 66 A65L which is pretty much original has some 67 stuff on it. The rocker cover is however smooth as shown in the part book. I think BSA at the end of a model year and the beginning of the next year shipped bikes with parts that were available from both years as an inventory adjustment technique. For example my bike got the 67 year updated alternator bracket. Saw similar things in my 68 B25

Top battery carrier is called "Battery strap" is part #68-4570. For unknown reasons, the special bolt with the knurled nut is not given a number although it is shown. The side panel fixing screws are 65-8317 and the nut is 42-8034.

HTH's
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See my earlier post. You're probably looking at 00-5126 too. Page 44/46 has the 6v battery carrier but without the part numbers for the bolts etc. If you look at page 36/38 the 12v carrier is there with all the part numbers for the hardware.


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Re: 66 spitfire [Re: furymalc] #442454
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Hi guys thanks for the help.
Were there two editions of 00-5126 ?, as the one on the DVD doesn't show these parts, but does show the GP carbs and mounts.

Cheers Malc

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Just checked the 67 parts book ,00-5129 on the DVD ,looks exactly the same to me.
The main reason for investing $75 and buying the DVD was to help with this project.

Malc

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My 66 book does not have the GP carbs but does have handed monoblocs. I have a 6 page supplement to 00-5126 with the GP carbs.


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Hello, noticed you had a 441 Victor same as I. Could you inform me of a link that could help me with reassembling mine? I am dealing with Chemo for Cancer and it robs me of memory for one. I can find all in need for my 650 Triumph of such, but haven't located one for BSA's. I have a orig. B44 & B25/C25 manual and the bikes are different in some locations. Thanks Mark

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Hi Mark. I hope the chemo goes well for you. Ruperts Ratio is a great book for BSA unit singles. With that, parts book and the shop manual you should have everything you need. Then post questions here. People like Gordon Grey, Mr. Mike, Steve Erickson and a host of others know a ton about these fun little bikes.


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Thanks, Doing the 63' TR6 was a trip, but with others help it's on the road, I seem to have lost a spacer on the front axle??

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Mark, you won't find a really detailed step-by-step assembly guide. As you mentioned, there are differences... and each year and model has some. The Haynes manual actually shows and explains some assembly, but leaves a lot to be desired. The parts book for your specific year/model is (in theory) numbered by the parts' sequence of assembly.

This Forum can be of great assistance. After studying your books, you can search the archived posts here to see if your question has already been answered (Google makes searching this site much easier)... if not, feel free to start a new thread with your question. You have found your best resource right here.... we are all constantly learning from each other.

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The knurled nuts are part #68-4568. The special bolts are part #68-4575, but I found them to be too short. There are lots of washers, rubber pieces, nuts, etc. that make up the assembly of this battery tray. It is a unique design only used on the 66. I have been unable to find a lot of them. I am working to restore a 1966 Spitfire as well, and I think I may have to have a machinist make some of these parts. The top tray/strap is different for different models, probably as others have said for 12 or 6 volt battery applications. The parts book does show the top strap part number #68-4570 to go with bikes that have the folding footpegs and the separate U shaped frame assembly at the rear, as the 66 Spitfire does. Perhaps you can find a used one? My parts book and the parts I have match the drawing you posted.
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Thanks for all the help Fullminator.
I thought I would show you what I started with,please don't laugh too loud.

Sorry for the poor picture, the computer that it was on died.
Cheers Malc

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Hi,
I was reading the posts and saw that you have a GP Victor. I have GP # 2595 ( or what's left of it) that I'm trying to get together. I bought two at once, one a matching # with chrome bore, etc, and a lesser one with a later model Victor lower end with a Rickman top end. A buddy talked me out of the lesser one and several years later I was forced to sell the good one and bought the other one back, so that's where I'm at now. I have procured quite a few parts but still need some. If you would like to discuss GP lore or parts sources you can email me at classicseast@roadrunner.com I also am doing a DBD and a P11, as well as a few Bultacos. Thanks much for your time. I'm across the Pond in North Carolina. Cheers, Phil Kuykendall

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Another question on spit parts.

The speedo/tacho bracket on the 66 has a round indentation between the clocks ,is this a blanked off hole? or just part of the casting ? and what size is it ?
I have a later type bracket and want to modify it to 66 specs.

Cheers
Malc

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