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2002 V11 LeMans with 51K miles and many extras and upgrades

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Very nice bikes, those modern Guzzis.

I have a friend that had one he liked so much, after he'd racked up over 100,000 miles, he bought another low-mileage one identical to it.

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Thanks, Beach. The PO had the V11 for the past 14 years, kept pouring money into the extras and upgrades. It rides like nothing else, sounds like nothing else, is a total blast to ride. Has its quirks, of course. Like the open drive shaft with three grease fittings, reaching the forward one takes some ingenuity and gyrations.

GP, yep, supposed to go 100K before rebuilds. The PO of this one overhauled the top end at 30K miles so he could fit special pistons and Kibblewhite valves and such. I don't mind.

As to modern, the V11 is not as modern as the 2007 Griso 1100 I had for a few years -- had all the sharp edges rounded off, appearance, performance, handling, everything. Still, I liked it:

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As you can see, going to an Italian bike meet is something like going to a British bike meet in that you can't hardly get pics of the bikes without also getting pics of old guys in saggy-ass jeans laugh


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You might need a bunch of those saggy ass guys to help you reinstall the tank. Why I don’t feed mine ethanol.

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1 to hold the tank and 5 to rotate the bike?


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lol as they say ...

Reading the V11 forum, someone uses a ratchet strap to "ease" the tank into place. Better suggestion which I will follow -- drain and remove and dry out the tank, let it sit over the winter, will shrink when dry. Don't put it in the dryer though ... .


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My fork tubes contacted the front of the tank when I first bought it. I only feed it premium without ethanol, preferably from Chevron because their pumps have a dedicated hose for premium so you don’t get some of whatever the previous person was buying. Wouldn’t be much, but I dislike ethanol in plastic tanks.... actually I dislike ethanol in anything.

I refer to my V11 as a tractor in a cocktail dress. First time my lovely bride heard the clutch, she says “ what the hell is that?”

Ps... tubes no longer hit the tank.

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Actually your dryer comment reminds me of the sales manager at one of the local Honda dealerships. Ran into him one day and his face was as red as a beet. Looked like a really bad sunburn and turned out he was just released hospital. He had wiggled the upper portion of his rather rotund body into the dryer and started spraying WD40 to try and eliminate a squeak. I gather the element was still pretty warm. Suggested he get his wife to record any future appliance repairs.

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Yikes! ... so it turns out that WD-40 doesn't work for everything, as some believe.

I'll look for the Chevron premium, thanks.


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Another tip.... if for some reason you have to replace any relays, get 5 pin. Stock they are all 4 pin except the one that feeds the ignition, which is 5 pin. That way if the 5 pin craps out, you can just swap it with another relay to get home. There is/was a guy on that V11 forum that sells relays. From China, but have been just fine. I replaced all my relays with 5 pin. The original one on the bike (ignition) seemed to work just fine, but the tach bounced around, which apparently is an indicator of impending doom. The contacts in the relay are starting to fester.

Somewhere there is a website that shows where you can buy ethanol free fuel. It is still fairly easy to come by here. I suspect the brass at Chevron and Shell all drive a Ferrari of some sort. BTW, I don’t believe it is the ethanol itself, but the water it attracts. So if you are consuming the fuel at a reasonable rate, as on a road trip, it shouldn’t matter. Just my humble opinion though...

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Cyborg -- thanks. I did follow that advice, have new 5-pin relays in all. They are OSRAM labelled made in USA, got 'em on eeBay. Also, have added DeoxIT to my array of spray cans.

Huge -- thanks, will check 'em out.

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My favorite station here has separate hoses for the no-alcohol and the E10.
Many of the stations in the middle of nowhere only sell regular E10 and have a separate pump for premium no-alcohol. Not so much for bikes, there's a lot of nice old cars in use around these parts.

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Hadn’t heard of that stuff.... I’ll check it out. There is a guy on that site that advocates jamming all the connectors full of Vaseline, but it has a pretty low melting temp IIRC. Prefer dielectric grease when necessary. Haven’t been on that site forever. Trying to limit web time and increase shop time.
One thing I find with the V11 is it feels a little weird in low speed cornering. Nothing I would consider a bad habit and haven’t bothered to pursue it. Maybe tires or maybe just a characteristic of the bike. It does seem to be getting heavier by the day, but like all the grunt it has.

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Remember that "dielectric" means "insulating". It's not meant to be "packed" into connectors, and that's not how the pros use it!

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My PA6 nylon tank on my MZ Skorpion swelled as well, made all the paint crack and fall off. Due to the nylon absorbing any water in and dropped out of the petrol apparently. Emptied it out, dried it out for a fair while and it shrank back to normal size. I've lined the tank now to stop it happening. So far so good. Ethanol of course takes up more water and this really becomes a problem if you leave the bike standing for any time, like over winter especially if the bike is experiencing lots of temp changes. This wasn't made any better by the filler drain being blocked on my tank. This is the water I got out of the tank.The yellow stuff on top is petrol, white below is water. Only noticed it when it went onto reserve and died, splutter, splutter.

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Tiny hole is to let any rain water out, it didn't of course till I unplugged it. It's a built in pipe that runs right through the tank.

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“ The yellow stuff on top is petrol”

Are you sure about that? Everyone I talk to back there says you can’t buy petrol anymore.... just some sort of shite, that barely burns.

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Originally Posted by Lannis
Remember that "dielectric" means "insulating". It's not meant to be "packed" into connectors, and that's not how the pros use it!

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I think one would have to be pretty creative to jam enough in there to force the pins apart.... not saying those folks aren’t out there though.
Also need to buy it from a reliable source.

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A nice wide-ranging thread, pub-style, and I'm drinking only coffee ... so far ... .

Cyborg -- my V11 handled "funny" when I got it. The Michelin PR4s on it had about half their tread left but were wearing funny, cupping on the front. My new go-to tire is Dunlop RoadSmart III (version IV has been announced). Once I put the Dunlops on, the handling straightened out.

KarlB -- YIKES!

(For those who tuned in late, last year I re-patriated my four Brit Bikes, now I have four Italians, expressing the Tartaglione-Prestigiacomo side of my family.)

On the subject of tanks, my '96 Duc has steel, the 2005 Duc has OEM composite but hasn't swelled (might have been replaced warranty earlier in its life), and the 2012 Duc has a double-size (6.4 USG) tank from California Cycleworks.

Yep, I'm a convert to DeoxIT for cleaning electrical contacts. Michael Heth at MotoLectric.com recommends it and includes some wipes with all his products. (Tridentman referred me to Heth.)
https://caig.com/deoxit-d-series/

Question:

Do additives like StarTron or SeaFoam help prevent tank swelling? or provide any noticeable benefit?


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The "new-to-me twin" doesn't appear to be "British-to-me."

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Originally Posted by Irish Swede
The "new-to-me twin" doesn't appear to be "British-to-me."
Rod & Tappet stuff, you know...


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Originally Posted by Irish Swede
The "new-to-me twin" doesn't appear to be "British-to-me."

True, but resembles British in many respects.


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Well give him time... you never know what might happen when the cabin fever sets in.

Depending on your point of view on content, this... I believe qualifies as British now after 2+ years of stupidity.

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Mine definitely has the weird cupping and a new tire waiting for me. Not my favourite task, although I do get a sense of satisfaction when there is no blood and I have the same number of rim protectors that I started with. I tried to take a photo of the cupping, but no luck. Your tire swap give me hope, although I went with Bridgestones..

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Whose stupidity?

I take my wheels to my favorite HD shop (not dealer) for mount & balance. I know it will be done right with no scratching or other damage, and the balance weights will match the color of the wheel. Unlike my former Ducati shop which stuck silver weights on my black wheels. mad

Anyway, it's cold and rainy, so here I am instead of riding or working in the unheated garage.


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