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LONG SHOT .... anyone have a GS side stand they would part with ? thanks.

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If you are not a slave to original pieces, early unit single side stands make a suitable replacement. The early unit single side stand needs some minor modifications to go over center when extended. But otherwise they work


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Am I right in saying that side stands were not fitted as standard on at least the DBD's ? Whilst looking at potential machines to buy and on the machine I've acquired the side stand is not fitted although the 'back half' of the attachment lug is on the frame. There is as far as I can see no side stand listed in the DBD parts book and wondered if this was an optional extra ?

Anybody know the full story on this..........

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Clubmans Goldstar was conceived as a production race bike. A side stand hinders cornering clearance on the left side. You seldom see Goldstars fitted with sidestands in photos from England. I would suspect they were an added option at the insistence of lazy Yanks. I've seen many frames (and owned a few) which were broken where the side stand mounts.


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Originally Posted by slow learner
I would suspect they were an added option at the insistence of lazy Yanks.
Speaking as a lazy Yank, I'd like to have a side stand on my Catalina and BB (yes, I know I could add them myself, but I'm a lazy Yank). However, my DBD Competition came with a sidestand. I'd be interested in hearing from other Competition owners whether theirs came that way, or if mine possibly was added by a previous owner.

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Originally Posted by Magnetoman
Originally Posted by slow learner
I would suspect they were an added option at the insistence of lazy Yanks.
Speaking as a lazy Yank, I'd like to have a side stand on my Catalina and BB (yes, I know I could add them myself, but I'm a lazy Yank). However, my DBD Competition came with a sidestand. I'd be interested in hearing from other Competition owners whether theirs came that way, or if mine possibly was added by a previous owner.
Well, according to VMCC this lazy Yank's '56 DB34GS left the works as a scrambler, but had absolutely no signs of ever having a side stand. So I welded one on 'cause the stock center stand is useless in the dirt. I guess even lazy Yanks have their limits. (BTW, lazy folk can be very creative when they work on ways to make life easy.)
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Ah yes MM, I see that your Catalina's stand has the highly coveted "Autonomous corrosion protection" option ... ;-)
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Originally Posted by gREgg-K
has the highly coveted "Autonomous corrosion protection" option
Their advertising department missed the boat in not using the slogan:

Rust Never Sleeps, But a BSA Never Rusts

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Or:
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My '63 Competition "All Sport" also has a side stand. IMHO, I believe all the Gold Star frames probably left the factory with the sidestand mounting lug but not all got a sidestand mounted.


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My 62 All Sport frame has no evidence of ever having the side stand attachment. However a 58 frame that left the factory as B34 Scram had a ripped out section of the lower frame rail where a side stand mount would have been.

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Documented 1958 DBD Catalina Scrambler (sent to Vancouver, Canada) has side stand lug on the frame.


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Considering that they all came out of the comp shop and were very much a bespoke build and being aware that BSA were never one to refuse anything if the owner was willing to pay enough. one might be forgiven for making an unsubstantiated assumption that if you wanted a side stand & were happy to pay extra then BSA would oblige .
Had a flip through some catalogues, but side / prop stands were not listed as optional extras.
However I have seen several goldies with a closed tube forged / cast mount braised onto the frame so they could have been available, or the bikes seen could all have been GS look alikes , there were ( and still are ) a lot of them around.


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Had a side stand mounting (and the associated) stand on an original DB32.


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A bit more information........

I've acquired a 1958 UK GS price list and the optional extra list does not include any mention of a side stand. The April 1962 combined UK price list does include the option of a side stand in the general range extras (there is a GS specific optional extras section) including B34.

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I checked the frame of my as-yet-incomplete 1960 Catalina, and it HAS the side-stand mount on the frame.

If it didn't, would BSA have supplied each Gold Star Catalina with a portable tree or fence post to lean it against when parked?

Kind of like the first P-11 Nortons, which had their side stands break off in the first week of ownership?
All of them in my area were seen parked leaning against a wall, a tree, or a fence.

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Originally Posted by Shemozzle
The April 1962 combined UK price...
For the U.S. the specs each year were set by the West and East Coast distributors, with building a bike to your own specs essentially not an option. This means for a given year all, say, Catalinas on each coast would have been specified to have side stands, or not. That is, for that given year, if Catalinas in dealerships in So. Calif. had side stands, they also would in Seattle, but they might not in Atlanta. The next year the situation could be reversed, or neither (or both) might have side stands.

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The previous owner told me mine came from California, if this is of any help.

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Folks are discussing slightly older Goldie's here but I've wondered the same thing. On my BB34 dated 1953 there is no boss or bracket for kickstand. Dispatch records say this bike was originally intended for Rich Child on eastcoast usa. Bike wound up being delivered instead to Hap Alzina on west coast. Not sure if that sheds any light on east vs west coast standards But this bike, intended for east coast but ending up on west coast, did not but come with a kickstand from BSA. Unless someone ground everything off. Which I suppose is possible. Clean frame though.


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