A good friend of mine has recently scored a 1968 B44 fitted with a fibre glass flat tracker kit. We dont think that it is recent --rather more a late 1960s period piece--maybe fitted by the dealer from new to shift the metal--or in this case metal and fibre glass! There is a very faded label stuck under the seat and my friend would be interested to learn more about the fibre glass unit. I attach photos of the bike and the label. Any information gratefully received.
Doubt it was fitted by the dealer... but I'd guess it is probably a more recent addition. 15 years ago or so a bunch of them (NOS) surfaced on eBay. Don't know the back-story, but for a while there were a lot of them available... they may have been a part of that west coast cargo-container stash that the Sandy Bandit forgot about and got bought up at an auction? They didn't sell like hotcakes, and so most went pretty cheaply. Seemed like most (of that batch anyway) were for BSA unit singles, but I do recall seeing some for Triumph twins.
I admit I did actually think (for a moment) about buying one for a fast fix/flip on a roller, but even a $25 price tag couldn't convince me to do that to it.
I’m with Steve on this one. I remember those things showing up on eBay. Started out around $125 (NOS) then went down from there. I know of two that were purchased BUT once the new owners started to mount them......they both gave up and I’m pretty sure those two are still hanging on rafters. This all came about around the same time the ethanol/ fiberglass mess was full blown. Just another reason why I stayed away from them. To date I still haven’t witnessed in person one of those mounted on a unit single. I have seen a few photos....IMO.....in those it just doesn’t seem to “fit” right.
Gordon in NC
PS. I do remember a fellow ( on this board) had one mounted but it cracked at several points. Probably more to do with HOW it was mounted than the construction of the seat/tank.
Strange that you should mention that, Gordon. After my friend got the bike home he found that the tank/seat unit was only mounted to the bike by one bolt through the tank. There were mounting points under the seat of the tank/seat unit but they were way off lining up with anything on the bike frame. I kinda like it in a period type way but it isn't too practical for everyday use. My friend has got some AV gas to use in it to avoid destroying the tank with ethanol fuel---but that limits the range to local rides only.
Yes sir, that’s was what I gathered by other people’s experience. The thing was marketed for BSA unit singles ( Steve says there was also a Triumph version) but it “really” never actually fit any of the stock mounting points. The stock side covers didn’t line up well either. Lots of stress where the seat and tank meet on the frame.
Sealers and fiberglass are a crap shoot IMO. You do hear success stories (Alex’s Rickman A65). Then there’re the folks that drain the tank after each use and try to ONLY use non ethanol. (Gary?) That just never worked for me. I want a bike I can jump on and do a 1500 mile weekend when I want to. So I moved on to steel or alloy for fuel tanks.
I remember on TV, a Corvette specialist saying that to restore even a good a body will need stabilising with gallons of resin to be applied to the inside surfaces of the body, before even thinking about the outside. The fibreglass becomes dry, porous and brittle
BSA B31 500 "Stargazer" Greeves 200 "Blue Meanie" Greeves 350 Greeves 360 Suzuki GSX1100 EFE "Sorcerers Apprentice" GM500 sprint/LSR bike "Deofol" Jawa 500 "Llareggub" Aprilia RSV Mille "Lo Stregone" '35 & '36 OK Supreme Kawasaki ZZR1400 "Kuro no senshi"
I've had it longer then the time since the Cycle Hub sale in 2002 but can't remember where I got it. It could have come from Mark McCracken Motors or F&W English Motorcyle, both in Portland and both out of business. I know Mike, one of the F&W owners had one on his B25. Most of those trailers from Cycle Hub were full of NOS, warrenty, and used parts from Duarte.
Peddled by Johnson Motors... for a BSA, interesting. Is it actually marked anywhere on it that it is for BSA unit single?
Tunnel isn't wide enough for OIF. Could be that with the stock solo seat bracket it might align with the solo mount on the 66-67 VE frames?
Bill- That stash I was talking about was prior to the clear-out in Portland, by a few years as I remember. Story I heard was that Cliff had containers of stuff that had never left Cal, he didn't have room, and he was paying storage rental on them Allegedly he lost track of one and it was auctioned off sight unseen for past-due fees. The guys that ended up with it disposed of a lot of items on eBay in a short period, around the same time these popped up. But I'm not sure these bodies were part of that...?
Duarte was after Johnson Motors was absorbed by the factory and shortly thereafter combined with BSA. So actually that card is kinda rare. Doesn't have any other markings on it. But the ones with the red slashes I've only seen on BSA's.
Cliff had trailers all over the place, some stored here in Portland, a couple right outside his shop, and at least two in Redding. The Redding trailers were stored at a friends junkyard for years and when the property was sold they got moved down the road and stored at another business. That was supposed to be temporary and after Cliff was notified several times to come and get them they were auctioned off at a Sheriffs sale. A couple of bikers who knew what was in them got someone to back them and they got them cheap. They then sold them to I think two different parties, one of which was a new Triumph dealer on the North Cal coast. He auctioned most of his parts on eBay. There was some litigation over the whole deal and most of the parts disappeared after that. That was several years before he sold most of his shop inventory along with the other trailers.
my local BSA dealer was also the Triumph and Honda dealer. I'm thinking it was late 70s I went in & he had one of those on the clearance table along with all his other remaining BSA inventory. the guy made a comment that it would go good on my A65.