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Re: introduction + Catalina air box
vintagebike #796384 01/23/20 1:20 pm
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If you are willing to make two more of those "domed" knobs to hold the cover on the air cleaner, I need them for MINE.

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Re: introduction + Catalina air box
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I like your plan to build an ISDT replica. Those machines were an interesting slice of the BSA history where the lads were showing how tough they were to handle such a heavy machine and where the machines showed how tough they were.

Nice work.

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Originally Posted by Irish Swede
If you are willing to make two more of those "domed" knobs to hold the cover on the air cleaner, I need them for MINE.


i can do it, if you have a little patience.. but only in aluminium. my small lathe is not able to make the crosses in steel.

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Re: introduction + Catalina air box
vintagebike #796492 01/24/20 9:08 pm
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Aha, an ISDT Gold Star, what a brilliant idea. All the more fitting since Germany has had such a great track record in the ISDT.

Your bike looks great, congratulations.

Regarding the knurled knobs for the airbox; Be careful what you offer, you may get many more orders, including one from me.

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Thanks for the positive reactions.
I can make some of the nuts but not a lot. It may take a while because i can only work in my garage at the weekeds.. I´d need the original thread size. I made my nuts in 1/4 BSC but i could imagine it´s original UNF?

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Originally Posted by vintagebike
I made my nuts in 1/4 BSC but i could imagine it´s original UNF?
I’m at airport so not easy to search but originals not 1/4”. Either 0BA or 2BA.

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I would doubt they would be UNF. I might be wrong, but I don't think there were any Unified threads on the BSA's of the era!


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Thanks MM, i did not expect a BA thread.. maybe you can tell if it´s 0 or 2BA?
When was the unified thread introduced? For me as a metric guy it´s not so easy to handle the different "inch based threads".

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Originally Posted by vintagebike
it´s not so easy to handle the different "inch based threads".
Actually, BA is a "metric-based" thread based on a 6 mm fastener with 1 mm pitch. However, it is implemented in a seemingly-odd way with the pitch of the BA series 1 mm × (0.9)BA no.. This makes for a smooth progression with smaller diameters and each successive pitch 10% finer than the one before. Although the 47½° thread form is different than the 60° metric, this means the dimensions of a 0 BA fastener are a very-metric 6 mm with 1 mm pitch. After that, though, they go off the rails.

This means that, despite the difference in thread form, you would have been in luck if the nuts were 0 BA Unfortunately, they're 2 BA, which means the pitch is 1 mm × (0.9)2 = 0.81 mm. The diameter is ~4.6 mm.


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Thank you, I have a set of BA taps and dies from 0-10BA. But i didn´t know that 2BA thread was used on this fastener.

Re: introduction + Catalina air box
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https://www.ring-plug-thread-gages.com/ti-N-vs-UN.htm


The UN thread form was developed after World War II by representatives of Great Britain, Canada, and the United States of America, to prevent recurrence of the wartime difficulties in supplying fasteners and tools in both British Standard Whitworth and US Standard configurations when and where needed. In 1949, after years of committee meetings between Canada, England and United States of America the American National Standard Series was replaced with the Unified Inch Standard Series.

Re: introduction + Catalina air box
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@ Irish Swede
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Today i started making 4 of these nuts, so i need the information from you, which thread size you need. The 2BA or an other size?

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Re: introduction + Catalina air box
vintagebike #796934 01/29/20 8:52 pm
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This is extraordinarily generous of you, and I will find a way of remunerating you appropriately. I will be in my garage at the weekend, and I will measure the threads then.

Thank you.

(look for PM as well)

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To: Vintage Bike:

I will get over to my shop today and measure those threads.
I will then get the information to you.

THANKS!

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1038 are seldom seen but 1036 are around and work fine. Hard parts to get are the slides. You can get brass reproduction slides but they are costly.


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Re: introduction + Catalina air box
vintagebike #797152 01/31/20 11:26 pm
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I have checked the threads for the two knobs on my Catalina air box.

Those threads are 2BA.

Please send me a private message, advising me of the price for two of these knobs, and postage cost to send them to me.

THANKS!

Re: introduction + Catalina air box
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Some times has passed now, but now i can start the reassambly. The painter did a good job and all parts are chromed. I rebuild the gearbox with new bushes and bearings. All major parts are ready for assambly and i´ll start tomorrow..

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Re: introduction + Catalina air box
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Congratulations! The pictures look great. You are going to have great fun with the assembly. Keep us posted.

Re: introduction + Catalina air box
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Thanks.
Oh yes it´s fun, here´s a short update:

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I´ve a rolling chassis:

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Congratulations!

Re: introduction + Catalina air box
vintagebike #806649 04/25/20 9:26 am
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Is there any shop where i can buy the oil lines for the centre tank? I can only find the lines for the standard tank..

Re: introduction + Catalina air box
vintagebike #806694 04/25/20 6:32 pm
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I'm sure there are places closer to you, and in Britain, John Cronshaw or Phil Pearson might help. But I think British Cycle Supply (britcycle.com) has them.

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OK, so the point is past for OP, but I just noticed Mike's Classic Spares has airboxes and lids of his manufacture.

I don't know the fine details about these bikes, and what fits what, but there it is.

Hope that might help someone looking at this someday.

Ray


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Re: introduction + Catalina air box
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I had the pleasure of visiting Mike's earlier this year with Magnetoman, and you are quite right, Mike has a treasure-trove of Gold Star spares. A quick email should tell you if he has the centre tank oil lines. https://mikesclassiccyclespares.com/

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