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Re: 1954 AJS 16MS. Whats it worth in Australia [Re: Rohan] #794372 12/30/19 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Rohan
Someone who has imported a bike recently has said that all that was needed was the customs agent
provided a signed statement that the bike did not have brakes containing asbestos.
Yes, if you're willing to risk confiscation of the motorcycle[1] as well as a fine[2], and if you find a customs agent who is willing to sign that form and risk a fine[2] for an incoming item for which he doesn't actually know whether or not it's true, and if the Border Force agent accepts that signed form, all is good. As I wrote earlier "It might well be that some motorcycles are still slipping through the cracks, or that there are certain ports of entry where inspection is lax. If after reading what follows you decide to gamble, good luck to you."

Excerpts from Border Force publications about asbestos:
[1] If asbestos is detected in goods being imported, the goods are seized as a prohibited import, and will be forfeited to the Crown for disposal.

[2] A person found unlawfully importing or exporting asbestos, or goods containing asbestos, may be subject to fines or prosecution.
A person convicted of an offence against section 233 of the Customs Act is punishable by a fine not exceeding 1000 penalty units (currently AUD210,000) or three times the value of the goods, whichever is the greater.

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Re: 1954 AJS 16MS. Whats it worth in Australia [Re: Dean44] #794397 12/31/19 1:30 am
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Magnetoman, Happy New Year to you too.
Sounds like you need it !!

If its had its brake shoes replaced anytime in the past thousand years,
it won't have asbestos in the brakes ??
When was it taken out of the brake linings as used by AMC ??
I'm fairly sure my (earlier) Ajay wouldn't have any asbestos, apart from maybe the head gasket.
(with new brake linings fitted into it, note).

As said too, a number of folks are importing and selling old bikes, and with new linings fitted
they don't seem to have any bureaucratic problems.

Re: 1954 AJS 16MS. Whats it worth in Australia [Re: Dean44] #794407 12/31/19 2:17 am
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Only recently has Australia been enforcing this asbestos ban with motor vehicles and the links I gave in an email yesterday show that there already have been significant consequences as a result. If all that those Maserati owners needed to do was replace the brake shoes to pass inspection it seems like they would have done so.

I have copies of the Border Force pdf on importing vehicles dated July 2018, and dated July 2019. When I ran a comparison of the two documents there were 50 changes. This shows this is a moving target as they decide how they will implement this new policy. Because of this, how they implemented the ban six months ago may not be how they implement it today, or six months from now. Or it may be. Anyway, everyone reading this is now aware of ban and the very restrictive language about asbestos anywhere in a vehicle, not just the brakes, in official Border Force documents. What people do with this information is up to them.

https://ferraris-online.com/australia-asbestos-and-collector-cars/




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Re: 1954 AJS 16MS. Whats it worth in Australia [Re: Dean44] #794427 12/31/19 4:23 am
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If you read the Border Force proper-gander, refugees coming to this fair land by boat will be shot, hung drawn and quartered,
cashiered, executed at dawn and declared criminals of the 1st order, sent to Manus Island and will NEVER set foot on Australian soil.
(Meanwhile, 100,000+ refugees came here with a plane ticket, and nary a word was said).

And the Commandant of Border Force was a right royal ^&%&$$^%&, along with some right wing cronies
Until he got his marching orders.

[Linked Image from abc.net.au]

And, as before, someone said he is currently importing a Spitfire and all that was required was a statement from the import agent
that the brakes do not contain asbestos.
You can make a big song and dance of it, but it seems to just be another bureaucratic hurdle/hoop to jump through.
Cheers !

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