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Need help identifying frame and wheels
#782049 08/20/19 4:33 pm
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I've been toying with the idea of building a bike for a while and got what i thought was a deal on a frame and wheels. Once i started to dig into all the body filler, I found a "custom" chop job and barely any numbers on the frame. I think the frame is a BSA, but I barely know anything about bikes at this point and could use as much help as possible identifying what I have. The front brake plate(?) appears to be from a Norton Commando but I could be wrong about that, too. The frame appears to have had a rigid tail put on at some point, but is was done correctly unlike the neck. Any help finding out what i have would be greatly appreciated.

The only numbers i found were "42-4320" on the upper frame lugs on the inside

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Re: Need help identifying frame and wheels
Carl Courson #782052 08/20/19 5:06 pm
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Part of the frame looks like a Norton Commando frame but its heavily modified, the headstock is from something else and there are other lugs and frame parts from other unknown bikes to the mix including the hardtail.

Based on the headstock welding I would be binning the frame.

Front wheel is a Commando TLS front brake.

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kommando #782053 08/20/19 5:14 pm
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I intended on having the neck fixed before I did much with it, but if it's a franken-frame I'll probably keep an out for something better and ditch this one. Thanks a ton for the help.

Re: Need help identifying frame and wheels
Carl Courson #782066 08/20/19 8:42 pm
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The lower cradle looks like A7/A10, the way the cradle and top tube are married up screams death trap at me. The only thing of any use is the Norton front hub


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Re: Need help identifying frame and wheels
Andy Higham #782073 08/20/19 10:47 pm
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I was thinking a10 or a65, but again, I don't know much about bikes. Everything but the neck *seems* like the person knew what they were doing when it was built but the more I think about it, the more it seems like I'm better off finding something unmolested for a first project (and maybe saving that hardtail section for the future). Thanks for the help.

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Re: Need help identifying frame and wheels
Carl Courson #782127 08/21/19 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Andy Higham
The lower cradle looks like A7/A10, the way the cradle and top tube are married up screams death trap at me. The only thing of any use is the Norton front hub


Agreed!

Originally Posted by Carl Courson
. Everything but the neck *seems* like the person knew what they were doing when it was built


Sadly not, I would say it was someone who had a welder but no idea about fabrication. A lot has been chopped out of the frame where it need not be, that lump under the rear of the top tube being a prime example.


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Re: Need help identifying frame and wheels
Allan G #782177 08/21/19 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Allan Gill
Sadly not, I would say it was someone who had a welder but no idea about fabrication. A lot has been chopped out of the frame where it need not be, that lump under the rear of the top tube being a prime example.



It didn't even cross my mind at the time but thinking about it now, the solid chunk of steel in the middle of the "thin" frame tubing is probably asking for trouble...

I'm glad I asked instead of just assuming all was good. I appreciate all the help and advice.


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