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Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake #781114 08/10/19 6:11 pm
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In my other thread I said how I checked my needle position. Well somehow the throttle was jammed a way open. I forgot to check that it was shutting ok like normal. Anyway I was going to strobe it but went to high revs so I turned the ignition off after frantically trying to close the throttle. It was only a few seconds but I am hoping it will be ok. I tried the twist grip when all was quiet and found that it seemed to be opening and snapping shut but only had half its normal travel. After checking the needle I had done this a couple of times but didn't notice. It started again normally once I had fixed the carb

I spend most of my life kicking myself after doing a series of daft things. This whole episode was pointless and all because I couldn't remember the needle position I had it in!

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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781119 08/10/19 7:02 pm
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Most of the damage was likely to your BVD's, just sayin.....If it doesn't knock or smoke afterward, you're probably good to go after a change in underwear.
You might have taken some miles off the lifespan of your rings, perhaps?
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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781125 08/10/19 7:46 pm
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Have to agree with Bill. I think we've all been there. You most likely got more stressed than the bike did.

Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781126 08/10/19 8:19 pm
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Will strobe it (low revs points version!) tomorrow and try it out.

Dave

Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781130 08/10/19 9:49 pm
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I did the same thing but I was riding at the time. I missed a shift with full throttle on and I broke 5 out of 6 rings into dozens of pieces. It was on my Norton, but same same.
It's likely to do damage to a bike with some miles on it rather than a new motor. The taper of the bore is hard on rings which get compressed then un-compressed repeatedly thousands of times per minute.
The over-rev was all it took to destroy my rings.
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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781139 08/10/19 10:42 pm
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Cobblers, I very much doubt that you've done any significant damage whatsoever.

Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781162 08/11/19 6:01 am
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Pretty much SOP on anything with Mk2 Amals or Mikunis. If it doesn't fire in two tries with the cold-start on you must open the throttle.
Not a problem as far as I know.


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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: DavidP] #781168 08/11/19 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by DavidP
Pretty much SOP on anything with Mk2 Amals or Mikunis. If it doesn't fire in two tries with the cold-start on you must open the throttle.
Not a problem as far as I know.



On anything with a flooded engine, although in those cases by the time it starts your able to close the throttle down again.


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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781173 08/11/19 9:37 am
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Well....that takes care of the running in phase..... laughing laughing

Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781178 08/11/19 11:08 am
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Yes I think the rings should be well bedded in now. Joking aside it is a good job it isn't a new engine. Mind you, do people rev a new engine up to strobe the timing with ei or do they wait until it is run in a bit?

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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781183 08/11/19 12:07 pm
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It was not under load so very unlikely to have caused damage.

Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781190 08/11/19 3:46 pm
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Pazon instruction says to time at a few degrees retarded at 3K rpm if you do not want to take a new rebuild to 5K.


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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781191 08/11/19 4:00 pm
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Strobed it up to 38 degrees at about 2500 rpm, took it out for a run and it bombed along as normal, thank goodness.

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Re: Started Bike on Large Throttle Opening by Mistake [Re: dave jones] #781214 08/11/19 9:28 pm
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They're tough old things, T140 engines!


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