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Alloy Folding Kicker #780782 08/07/19 5:08 am
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The discussion in another thread about the A65 kick start lever being in the wrong place for rearsets made me look into whether an aluminum kick lever from a Japanese bike could be made to fit by making a new shaft like I did for the T140/triples. Most all dirt bikes are going to electric start because there is little weight penalty and people are getting too old or soft to kick over motorcycles.The late model kickers typically have bends to fit around exhaust pipes or other things so would look out of place on a Brit Bike. The XR400 kicker that I used for the Triumph twin and triples is now rare. It was perfect as the metric spline could be cut in the existing 3/4" shaft.
An alternative is the XR650 kicker. They were very popular and around for several years. The drawback is the spline is larger than the external 3/4" A65 shaft. The A65 shaft is larger where it goes through the steel bush in the inner timing case and the spline could be accommodated by boring the outer cover slightly. The cover is 0.780" and the maximum spline diameter is 0.810" so not much change. Run a 13/16" drill through.
It would look like this:
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This is an aftermarket kicker and costs about $55.
Thoughts?

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Re: Alloy Folding Kicker [Re: DMadigan] #780785 08/07/19 6:24 am
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Looks good! I like my bent lever so don’t plan on changing it but if I had the call for one....

Would it also come with a quadrant to suit?


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Re: Alloy Folding Kicker [Re: DMadigan] #780786 08/07/19 6:31 am
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Hi David

I modified my A65 a few years ago to use a GT750 kick leaver. While it looked fine, I found in practice that your foot was too far out when you were pushing down, the energy was being pushed away rather than down. I changed it out and reverted to the more conventional folding kick leaver.
Perhaps some other kick leavers could be more suitable.

I would post a few photos, but it's so difficult on here that I can't be bothered, be happy to send anyone photos by email should they wish.

regards

John

Re: Alloy Folding Kicker [Re: DMadigan] #780820 08/07/19 3:06 pm
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The quadrant can be swapped off the original. Adding the quadrant would make it much more expensive.
John, if I remember correctly the GT750 lever is steel? Also, there is the question of availability. New XR650 levers are readily available.
I put a CR250 lever on my Wenco racer by face welding it on the the base of a stock kicker. Fine for a triple but probably too short for a twin.

Re: Alloy Folding Kicker [Re: DMadigan] #780827 08/07/19 3:58 pm
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Dave,
Have a look at the Yamaha XS 650 kick start. Might work for you, and surely must be common in the US?


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Re: Alloy Folding Kicker [Re: DMadigan] #780865 08/08/19 12:02 am
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I did look at the XS650 kicker. MikesXS has them fairly cheap but again, steel. If I have to make a new shaft I would rather go for an alloy kicker.

Re: Alloy Folding Kicker [Re: DMadigan] #780887 08/08/19 5:38 am
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Hi David

You're right in that the GT750 leaver was steel, I just used the GT750 parts as I had them laying around. Plus it was a simple job to fit the Suzuki splined shaft onto the BSA quadrant and make a smaller bush for the casing.

regards

John


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