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A question for Victor owners #780761 08/06/19 11:14 pm
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I'm putting together a mostly '68 Victor Special.
I've been picking up parts here and there, whenever i have a couple bucks.

Last week, I bought a QD rear, and just figured out it's a 19" wheel.( I was told it was an 18, and didn't check.)
Is there enough room for it?
I could go for a smaller tire, like a 3.50, if the diameter is a problem.
I think the scrambles c15s had a 19"rear wheel, but I don't know if any of the b44 models did.

Thanks, in advance.

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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780763 08/06/19 11:47 pm
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The 68 VS lists a 400x18 Gold Seal a road tire. I have a 450X18 Knobby on a 69 VS and there is room to spare. However I do not have a chainguard so the side knobs are not a problem.

Even with the Knobby tire there is still more than 1/2 inch to spare at the front. Even more to the stock rear fender. Given that a 19 is only 1/2 more on the radius than the 18 tire I would think you would be ok wiht a road 400x19. You could measure the outside diameter of possible tires to see where the mid point would be in the swingarm.

This is the rear clearance.

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Here is the front clearance to the swingarm cross bit.

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Do you have a part number for the rim? If it is not for a VS wheel the rim offset might not be correct.

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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: Gordo in Comox] #780770 08/07/19 12:28 am
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Crap, I hadn't considered the offset.
I'll have to scrub it and see what the number says.
I think it might be an A7 Jones.

Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780777 08/07/19 3:16 am
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Also check to see if the splines align on the QD, they weren't all the same.

Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780831 08/07/19 4:46 pm
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If it's a 19" it sounds like it came off the early Lightning / Thunderbolt Rocket models that had a 19" rear

I'm running a Shinko SR241 on my '65 B40 Enduro Star, I gad to "Clearance" the tire to prevent chain-guard rub


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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780840 08/07/19 7:07 pm
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Or a pre 57 a/b series


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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: C.B.S] #780854 08/07/19 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by C.B.S
If it's a 19" it sounds like it came off the early Lightning / Thunderbolt Rocket models that had a 19" rear

I'm running a Shinko SR241 on my '65 B40 Enduro Star, I gad to "Clearance" the tire to prevent chain-guard rub

i have those tires here, waiting for my cub to emerge from it's boxes...
did you go 4.00, or 3.50?

I still have to look for numbers, and try to figure out what this wheel was on. No grease nipple, no speedo drive, splines mate up to the brake-plate/stub.
I have the rupert books, so i can probably check the offset against his numbers. I was going to put alloy fenders on it to save weight, so that at least shouldn't be a problem.


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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780858 08/07/19 10:25 pm
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Martin: By no speedo drive do you mean there are no threads to accept the drive? If so that would mean it was made for a model that drove the speedo from the gearbox.

This photo shows a preunit wheel with no speedo drive threads. Missing is the pressed on tin cover to protect the bearing. Is this what you have?

Gordo

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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: Gordo in Comox] #780864 08/07/19 11:40 pm
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i'm guessing yes.

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i found a rim stamp WM2 19, but nothing visable on the hub. I would guess it's offset about 3/8" from center.
missing a couple spokes, both on the splined side, if anyone has some rattling around.

if it can be used, i might.
The proportions are good. I have a half-hub front wheel off an earlier bike that I'm hoping to use. It's got a 19"rim laced to it as well.

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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780867 08/08/19 12:16 am
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I have a 69 B-44VS since 198I set it up back then as a dirt bike off road only. The rear has a 4.60x18 ching-ching knobby with plenty of room. Tsubaki nickle plated 530 chain, Boyer EI, Kuni 30mm round slide, Tympanium reg/rect, Bikemaster gel electrolyte ytx-4 battery. Takes vibration better than any other type I have tried. MAP oil filter kit, Valvoline VR-1 60wt. Ford old style ATF for the primary and 90wt gear oil in trans. Honda dirt bike drum brake front end. Bike is a friggin blast to ride.

Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780871 08/08/19 12:46 am
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Martin. Great. Your first photo shows the speed drive so it is a later wheel, not like mine above. It should work if you have a speedo drive unit to put onto it. Be careful if you try to take the speedo drive off. Some are LH and a few are RH threads. There should be a LH stamped somewhere, maybe on the hub, to give you a clue which way to turn it.

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Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780877 08/08/19 2:33 am
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WM2, as I recall was intended for 3.50 width max, anything wider went to WM3.


Re: A question for Victor owners [Re: MartinBuilt] #780879 08/08/19 2:44 am
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I'm running a 4.00 X 18 Shinko SR241 (rear) and 3.50 on the front

On my Enduro Star (C15C Frame) I had to make room on the rear, and the front barley fits


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