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Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
#778114 07/08/19 3:58 am
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Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue! same color I believe. anyone have a modern paint mfr. code?????? Ditzler, PPG? looking for 1965 match. thanks

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Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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I read somewhere that Skoda Medium Blue 4456 is a good match but havent tried it personally.

See the last post in This Thread onthe Bantam owners club site.

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Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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dont know,but believe it or not there's a seller on amazon selling some and of course claiming it to be an exact match to unfaded original. i guess you could buy some and paint a sample and take it down to a ditzler or ppg or any reputable auto paint joint and have it mixed in QUALITY paint.the bsaoc has a chart and it says they are the same in 10/10/56.it must be a pastel? ,yes?

Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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BSA Bantam in Sapphire Blue. (for 1962, be aware that colors can change over the years).
Note the address in Nutley (and that colors in brochures may not be perfectly accurate).

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Were they really still making plunger bantams in 1962 ?

Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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And see the thread here about east coast and west coast.
No actual paint codes though...

http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=425890

Said to be Nutley Blue
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Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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Mike--you could always bring the bike up to 639 Passaic Avenue, Nutley and ask!
It is now a beauty supplies wholesaler but you might get a good match in nail polish!
At least no one could argue that it wasn't Nutley Blue!

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Originally Posted by gunner
I read somewhere that Skoda Medium Blue 4456 is a good match but havent tried it personally.

See the last post in This Thread onthe Bantam owners club site.


Ive just done a comparrison with the 71 thunderbolt green colour (as I have a NOS pannel on my desk) the Dupont colours given aren't even close with each other and just as not close with the panel I have (granted that colours changed on a daily basis)

The Nutley blue I've seen plenty of has been a more pale/pastel blue than shown above, although I've also seen Catalina's and Spitfire scramblers in a similar blue to this but pastoral model A10's (and bantams to be more pastel than this.


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Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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Originally Posted by rocketscientist
Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue! same color I believe. anyone have a modern paint mfr. code?????? Ditzler, PPG? looking for 1965 match. thanks



If your willing to widen your colour chart, the electric blue on the 68' D14 was a really nice colour!


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Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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I went to a local paint shop and did some matching with chips. Going with BASF "color max solid" chip board # SB089.50 no names like in the old days.
The light blue is damn near perfect to my fender sample for 1965.

Going with a single stage urethane. God save the queen!

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As has been stated before on this forum what is a match for one Nutley Blue on one bike might be different for the same model produced 2 months later and called the same color. Batches sent to the factory might not be exactly the same, painters on different shifts having different methods let alone the ambient conditions. So one bike produced early in the model year might be slightly different at the end of the run.

In '59 or '60 there were some Gold Stars painted a "Midnight Blue". It was a few shades darker then the Nutley Blue.


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Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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Yep Boomer is right
And no matter what shade of blue you use there will suddenly be 10,000 male ccolour experts to tell you how wrong it is.
So find a blue that makes you go WOW .
And you did not need to have different shift for the colours to be different.
When ken bought his plunger A10 from the very first batch that came to Australia, only 2 out of the 20 were the same colour beige from one end to the other.
First batch of bikes with sequential numbers so one would expect they came down the line one after the other.


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Re: Saphirre Blue vs Nutley Blue!
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BSA probably had parts go through the paint shop in different sessions, so whenever
the paint was topped up or added to could give a difference in color/tint.

Even today, paint suppliers will tell you to paint your bike out of the one can.
And to stir it thoroughly BEFORE you begin, and for the guy doing the painting
to shake the paint around in the gun between pauses.

Hopefully we will see a pic of the final result ?


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